PUA Forum :: How did I fuck up?! Is there anyway for a recovery?

Ok, so to start off, I went to a bar with my friend Mohammed.

Met a girl (girl #1), she was ok, though I was trying to do better all night.

She invites us out to another bar that's open late. We go.

I meet a few people there, but nothing too exciting.

We go to an after party with a group, including girl #1. At this point, it's like 5 or 6 am.

I meet a girl (girl #2) at this after party, and we hit it off (or so I think) fantastically.

She's talking about a subject I'm really interested in but nobody else is at all (scientific morality - apparently her senior thesis is on it). She's read some of my favorite books. She's hot as hell.

Anyway, one of the other guys that came with us knows her. He's being all flirty, and she's being flirty with both of us. At one point, she rubs his head, and I'm all like, sarcastically "Oh, he gets his head rubbed, eh?" and she's like "Oh, is somebody jealous here?" - like, it's all going good. But she was touching both of us, seemed interested in both of us. It seemed like she and this guy knew each other, and were friends, but didn't see each other often.

Anyway, my friend is really drunk, and the people I came with are leaving, except the one guy that's friendly with the girl (#2). Girl #2 invites me to stay. I decline because I didn't want to be a total dick to girl #1 (who I'd kissed earlier in the evening and was friendly with), and I wanted to see my friend home, and my car was parked in a spot it could get a ticket if I stayed longer than 10 am.

As I'm in girl #1's car on the way to my car, girl #2 texts me with:

"I'm pumped to have an awesome convo about the evolution of morality!"

I respond with "Oh I know, We're going to plan for one ASAP"

No response, but it's 6 am.

I text her yesterday at like 7 or 8 PM:

"Let's meet up Saturday afternoon. Bring your paper."

No response.

Did I do something wrong? Should I text her again? She (girl #2) seemed AWESOME, she was hot, she lives in the city I live in, works in the city I work in - I don't typically get giddy over girls anymore, but we seemed to legitimately get along pretty well.

Girl #1 texted me yesterday and wants to meet up at some point.

Author:	Pikeman85 [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:	How did I fuck up?! Is there anyway for a recovery?
Ok, so to start off, I went to a bar with my friend Mohammed. Met a girl (girl #1), she was ok, though I was trying to do better all night. She invites us out to another bar that's open late. We go. I meet a few people there, but nothing too exciting. We go to an after party with a group, including girl #1. At this point, it's like 5 or 6 am. I meet a girl (girl #2) at this after party, and we hit it off (or so I think) fantastically. She's talking about a subject I'm really interested in but nobody else is at all (scientific morality - apparently her senior thesis is on it). She's read some of my favorite books. She's hot as hell. Anyway, one of the other guys that came with us knows her. He's being all flirty, and she's being flirty with both of us. At one point, she rubs his head, and I'm all like, sarcastically "Oh, he gets his head rubbed, eh?" and she's like "Oh, is somebody jealous here?" - like, it's all going good. But she was touching both of us, seemed interested in both of us. It seemed like she and this guy knew each other, and were friends, but didn't see each other often. Anyway, my friend is really drunk, and the people I came with are leaving, except the one guy that's friendly with the girl (#2). Girl #2 invites me to stay. I decline because I didn't want to be a total dick to girl #1 (who I'd kissed earlier in the evening and was friendly with), and I wanted to see my friend home, and my car was parked in a spot it could get a ticket if I stayed longer than 10 am. As I'm in girl #1's car on the way to my car, girl #2 texts me with: "I'm pumped to have an awesome convo about the evolution of morality!" I respond with "Oh I know, We're going to plan for one ASAP" No response, but it's 6 am. I text her yesterday at like 7 or 8 PM: "Let's meet up Saturday afternoon. Bring your paper." No response. Did I do something wrong? Should I text her again? She (girl #2) seemed AWESOME, she was hot, she lives in the city I live in, works in the city I work in - I don't typically get giddy over girls anymore, but we seemed to legitimately get along pretty well. Girl #1 texted me yesterday and wants to meet up at some point.

Author:	VietnameseProdigy [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:44 pm ]
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assume the meetup is going to happen with girl #2 shoot her a text on Saturday with the logistics also go bang girl #1

Author:	Pikeman85 [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How did I fuck up?! Is there anyway for a recovery?
lol, yea, girl #1 just responded to my texts. She was totally into me. idk the relationship between girl #1 and girl #2. Should have stayed with girl #2. Though idk why she'd want two guys to stay over (MFM?)

Author:	Pikeman85 [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:14 pm ]
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Does everyone else mostly agree with his assessment? Basically act like she is going to follow through with my statement? What sort of venue should I invite her out to, if we're going to have a conversation about morality (though I'd also like to sleep with her eventually)

Author:	Pikeman85 [ Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How did I fuck up?! Is there anyway for a recovery?
What sort of intellectual, but fun date, should I invite her out on?

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Author:	Tr@veler [ Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:29 pm ]
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Look you're looking at this from the wrong angle. You are SUCKING UP to her big time on here. (She's hot as hell...we got along fantastically...) You do WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT. Set the meetup to be not something intellectual. Since when did girls get turned on by intellect? Sure, intelligence is sexy, but you have to stir up emotions. Forget what SHE would like to do on a Day 2. What would YOU like to do? Go bowling? A drink? Coffee? Park? Figure it out. Don't tell her to "bring her paper". Might have been kidding, but might have not. There is a possibility she thinks you're interested in her only because of this now. Are you only going to talk about that subject on your date? Probably not. It's absolutely IRRELEVANT. She's fucked other guys who've never even heard of it. Did you make it clear you were hitting on her? If not, your intentions are completely hidden. Bad situation. You HAVE to make it clear you're interested in her sexually. The sooner the better. Takes all awkwardness out of the situation. Make your intentions clear and don't apologize for them. It's just human nature that you find her cute goddamnit. From the one sentence you provided from your interaction with her "Oh, he gets his head rubbed?" - needy. Would an alpha male say that? Think about it long and hard. Could have blown the other guy out of the water. "Are you two going out? How cute." And if she says "No" well guess who is on her list and who isn't? You are and he isn't. Know what you want here. And go for it and stick with it. Keep your frame, hold your ground. Never apologize for it. Stay unaffected by whatever she says and does. Most of all have fun. Don't suck up to her. Don't place such a high value on her just because she looks good. Does she have the other things that are important to you? Don't just say "Yeah she does" when you haven't actively searched for them by asking her or getting it out of her. Say and do whatever YOU want. Go for it without apologies. This is your world. You don't enter her world. She enters yours.

Author:	Pikeman85 [ Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How did I fuck up?! Is there anyway for a recovery?
To be fair, more interested in her because of the morality thing, not because she's hot.

Author:	exclusiveme [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How did I fuck up?! Is there anyway for a recovery?
What ever you`re doing you`re doing it right cause you obviously the one getting the results

Author:	mother_fucker_2000 [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:33 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How did I fuck up?! Is there anyway for a recovery?
Quote: Ok, so to start off, I went to a bar with my friend Mohammed. Met a girl (girl #1), she was ok, though I was trying to do better all night. She invites us out to another bar that's open late. We go. I meet a few people there, but nothing too exciting. We go to an after party with a group, including girl #1. At this point, it's like 5 or 6 am. I meet a girl (girl #2) at this after party, and we hit it off (or so I think) fantastically. She's talking about a subject I'm really interested in but nobody else is at all (scientific morality - apparently her senior thesis is on it). She's read some of my favorite books. She's hot as hell. Anyway, one of the other guys that came with us knows her. He's being all flirty, and she's being flirty with both of us. At one point, she rubs his head, and I'm all like, sarcastically "Oh, he gets his head rubbed, eh?" and she's like "Oh, is somebody jealous here?" - like, it's all going good. But she was touching both of us, seemed interested in both of us. It seemed like she and this guy knew each other, and were friends, but didn't see each other often. Anyway, my friend is really drunk, and the people I came with are leaving, except the one guy that's friendly with the girl (#2). Girl #2 invites me to stay. I decline because I didn't want to be a total dick to girl #1 (who I'd kissed earlier in the evening and was friendly with), and I wanted to see my friend home, and my car was parked in a spot it could get a ticket if I stayed longer than 10 am. As I'm in girl #1's car on the way to my car, girl #2 texts me with: "I'm pumped to have an awesome convo about the evolution of morality!" I respond with "Oh I know, We're going to plan for one ASAP" No response, but it's 6 am. I text her yesterday at like 7 or 8 PM: "Let's meet up Saturday afternoon. Bring your paper." No response. Did I do something wrong? Should I text her again? She (girl #2) seemed AWESOME, she was hot, she lives in the city I live in, works in the city I work in - I don't typically get giddy over girls anymore, but we seemed to legitimately get along pretty well. Girl #1 texted me yesterday and wants to meet up at some point. You need to watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHrCFXGl ... r_embedded

Author:	Tr@veler [ Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How did I fuck up?! Is there anyway for a recovery?
Quote: To be fair, more interested in her because of the morality thing, not because she's hot. So out of the block of information I gave you, this is all you got out of it. Tell me how it goes with the girl.

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