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| Author: | junior24 [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Getting Through "The Shield" |
I think my biggest barrier to overcome is getting through the girl's shield. That wall she puts up to weed out guys and narrow the playing field. I'll get to the bar or club and approach the girl on the dance floor or at the bar but she they'll usually give off a negative unwelcoming response. For example, I'll make eye contact on the dance floor and make my way over and start dancing and she'll turn slightly away and stop looking at me. Or I'll initiate a conversation to the set at the table over in the bar but get some unwelcoming responses. I don't understand why other than it just being a test. I mean I'm a fairly good looking guy and this happens mainly in densely populated college bars/clubs where people are looking to make friends and hook up. I feel confident enough to approach and I could carry a conversation but I just can't seem to get through this shield and after hitting it a few times in the night, it starts to take it's toll. |
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| Author: | Spark Plug [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting Through "The Shield" |
I'm kinda new here but from what I've always been told you have to appear to be the prize not her. Mystery once said "An IOI begets and IOI and an IOD begets an IOD" so when you approach have your body face away from them and basically ignore the target. I've run into this a few times before and I know exactly how you feel about it but my advice would be to neg her the minute she says or does something bitchy. Hope this helped bro. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting Through "The Shield" |
You aren't interested in most women, and that cuts both ways. Most girls are not into you. All of the stuff that says you can get any girl, is flat out wrong. You can maybe get %20 of girls. There are some girls that are considerably hotter than you that will go for you, and some that are quite lower than you that still don't want you. Expect most women to not be interested and go find the ones that are open to you. The only way you find that out is by approaching and seeing how interested and open they are. |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting Through "The Shield" |
Girls in clubs have higher bitch shield and artificially inflated ego, do to all the attention they get, follow my youtube videos and my main post on club game i cover a lot of your questions.. |
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| Author: | junior24 [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting Through "The Shield" |
I do agree with most of the things said here but you cannot argue that "the shield" doesn't exist. Obviously some girls are going to want nothing to do with you but I'd say most put of this wall but are still open if you can press the right buttons. I mean I can even recall myself being approached by woman and putting up a shield just to see what they were made of. @Versalis I do agree that not all women are going to be interested, but that's not to say only 20% are interested and you don't stand a chance with the with. Some women are interested but hide it, others just don't know if there interested YET and put up this shield to see what your made of. I would say at any social event 90% of the girls could potentially be interested. Maybe on your first approach only 20% would immediately display interest but what I'm asking is for the other 70% who are potentially interested, how do I get past that shield. |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting Through "The Shield" |
Junior, you show me one single man who is not famous that can hit on 100 hot women and get 25 lays. One single man. I will then officially sign up for this man's bootcamp and worship him as my God. He does not exist. Yes, you may be able to beat a woman's initial interest(or lack thereof) and change things around. But your odds on that are fairly poor. Makes way more sense to go after the ones that are vibing with you from the start. Friend circle and acquaintances are good examples of where you might try to beat initial attraction. But a club is not really the place. |
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| Author: | junior24 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting Through "The Shield" |
Quote: Junior, you show me one single man who is not famous that can hit on 100 hot women and get 25 lays. One single man. I will then officially sign up for this man's bootcamp and worship him as my God.
I'm confused, I never did say a man could get 25 lays for every 100 girls he opened. What I did say is not all girls will initially show interest when you open them, however that doesn't mean they're not interested, you just have to build attraction.He does not exist. Yes, you may be able to beat a woman's initial interest(or lack thereof) and change things around. But your odds on that are fairly poor. Makes way more sense to go after the ones that are vibing with you from the start. Friend circle and acquaintances are good examples of where you might try to beat initial attraction. But a club is not really the place. Once again I do agree that it's definitly in your best interest to hook up with girls that display attraction upon iniatally meeting them but that's not to say if a girl doesn't give you the most welcoming response to leave... If everyone just gave up after receiving an unwelcoming response after the open, only the good looking guys would get the lay. I'm not trying to start an argument but clearly we have two different philosophies. If I receive a warm response - AWESOME! If I receive a lukewarm response - Well it looks like I have some work to do but she's not out of reach... I'm really looking for others opinions regarding how they deal with lukewarm responses. |
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| Author: | Spark Plug [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting Through "The Shield" |
Just try finding out for yourself. One weekend when you're not too busy spend one day researching the bitch shield, how to get through it, what to do if Event A or B occurs etc etc. Then spend the other day field testing your theories. Don't be afraid to try anything and everything. That's how the trailblazers did it, when this PUA was all new territory, guys had nothing on their side but trial and error. That's how the greats like Mystery did it and if you ever want to become an mPUA that's how you're gonna have to do it to because if you follow all the rules and don't try anything new then you're not really your own unique PUA your just a clone of your guru. Find your own style and everything else will become easy. Good luck, Damien |
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