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Author:  Kirin [ Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:00 am ]
Post subject:  I use to be a nice guy.

I used to be called a nice guy.

A nice guy who never kissed a girl until he was 20.

I discarded my pride and started learning the art of picking up women. Since then I've had fairly successful experiences and I was proud of myself. Recently I gave my first ex the opportunity to sleep with me, and true to the saying that exs are exs for a reason, we ended up arguing afterwards and she said that I have became a douche and a narcissist.

I feel like I have come to a full circle, she was the one who I had my first kiss, my first relationship and first break up. I have moved on afterwards and became more experienced with other women. Through my journey, some woman have called me a jerk, a douche, someone who is in over his head etc... but I have also shrugged it off because to me it was just a game and I win fairly often.

So for this girl who has known me for the person who I was to the person I am now say that to me made me stop and think about myself. I am confident in my personality but I don't want to brush this opinion aside solely because I don't want to cut my own learning curve by thinking I'm perfect.

What do you guys think?

Author:  IagoSydney [ Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:41 am ]
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Sounds like you need to calibrate your negs bro.

But seriously, use this as a learning experience. Human behaviour exists an a CONTINUUM with 'nice guy' at one end and 'douche' at the other end. You can be anywhere on this scale, you dont necessarily need to be right at one end or the other. Perhaps you over-calibrated and now need to pull back a bit to reach a desired equilibrium between the 2 extremes.

A positive way of learning from this situation would be to change up the way you act a bit. Dont be afraid to treat women well or compliment them. Having said that, dont let the comments of a few people throw you off completely. It sounds like your closer to where you want to be than you might know.

Pick up is a journey that needs constant reevaluation to see where you are at. What this woman has said to you is a gift and opportunity for growth and should be treated as such. At least you had the balls to make a change from 'nice guy'.

Author:  IagoSydney [ Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:13 am ]
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Also, i was just, thinking:

If you want to do the really mature thing, you could call her and ask her to meet you for coffee and ask her exactly what made her think you were a douche and in what ways you could have treated her better.

Imagine how wet that would make her, seriously listening to what she has to say about how you can improve yourself.

Just a thought - i guess it depends on your current relationship whether you could do that or not.

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