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Author:  Great-1 [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  eagerness and value
I have a number of questions all centered around eagerness and value. I am trying to separate AFC qualities from PUA qualities.

1) If you compliment a girl does that make you AFC. Because When i go direct I say hey your beautiful. Does going in with the compliment automatically make you afc.

2)I think a big problem in my game is being too overeager. I'm noticing women are always telling me they dont want a relationship. I never asked them to date me. The most forward thing i do is ask them what their type is. Can someone explain overeagerness to me with some tips and some behaviors that indicate it?

3)Similar to the problem above. When i ask girls to go on Day-2's they always think i'm asking them out one a "DATE". Idk why but they think its a serious thing which cuases them to flake a lil more. How do I communicate i just want to hang out.
Author:  Snarg [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:23 pm ]
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1) Complimenting a girl is fine as long as you don't say it in a "look how hard I'm trying" sort of way, if that makes sense. Also, when you're telling her she's beautiful, make sure you use the right form of your/you're. Your = possessive, you're = contraction of "you are". Bitches love good grammar.

2) It doesn't matter if you're direct or indirect - if you even hint that you are looking for a relationship she'll pick up on it and detect that you're overeager. Don't ask what their type is. Who cares? Move forward and attract her.

3) How are you asking them, exactly? You need to make it sound as casual as possible. "Hey, there's this fucking awesome pumpkin flavored ice cream they're selling at Ice Cream R Us. Let's go get some." Don't even mention the word "date", and don't act like you're nervous to ask her or she'll pick up on the fact that you think it'll be a date.
Author:  Great-1 [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:16 am ]
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1) hell yeah I hate it when women correct my grammer. BITCH I CAN SPELL naa jk
2) true because they hardly ever describe me...Got this from the Mystery method
3)okay sounds good

preciate the advice man
Author:  pumpington [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: eagerness and value
Quote:
1) If you compliment a girl does that make you AFC. Because When i go direct I say hey your beautiful. Does going in with the compliment automatically make you afc.
depends on your frame of mind, are you trying to win the girl over with the compliment? or are you saying it because it's true and you want to get to the point and see what she is about?

the real question is, WHY are you giving the compliment? that is what makes you a guy who ''KNOWS'' what he is doing vs a guy who doesn't ''KNOW'' what he is doing
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2)I think a big problem in my game is being too overeager. I'm noticing women are always telling me they dont want a relationship. I never asked them to date me. The most forward thing i do is ask them what their type is. Can someone explain overeagerness to me with some tips and some behaviors that indicate it?
being needy, you want to have sex, but sex is a big deal, so she gives you an inch, you make it a huge deal and want to take a mile, you become hyperfocused on that, instead of just chilling back, and making it seem like less of a big deal

enjoying sex, not a big deal, just get her alone, get her naked, make it happen,

but pussy foot around it, take 3 days to finally work up the courage to kiss her, then finally do it and be like, OMG THAT KISS WAS AMAZING!! THAT AMAZING KISS, then all of a sudden take a 180 in behavior and text her you want to see her again right away, that last night... OH BOY THAT LAST NIGHT, all of a sudden it's a big deal, there is more pressure on her cause everything is a big deal for you, and you are too eager cause you care too much, it reflects a lack of experience and it's a turn off for girls because they like guys who ''KNOW''

competence breeds confidence, and ''knowing'' is being confident
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3)Similar to the problem above. When i ask girls to go on Day-2's they always think i'm asking them out one a "DATE". Idk why but they think its a serious thing which cuases them to flake a lil more. How do I communicate i just want to hang out.
when you ask them out, what do you ask them?

coffee/drink/your house?

also, what is wrong with ''a date'', something sounds fucked with your frame control
Author:  Great-1 [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eagerness and value
Sorry i didnt check my post :oops:, I always ask them to come to coffee, or to hang out somewhere like a mcdonalds just anything i think is fun and they would join. They always take it as a big deal and think i want to be in a relationship. I think my frame control is messed up, I dont even know how to do that.
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