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Author:  Mike1 [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:36 am ]
Post subject:  How to recover from this cockblock?

Ok so I started going to this new place, it's a dance venue and I can now dance ok/fairly well. I'll get solid IOIs as well as proximity from HBs, and often they'll come by to talk.

There is an instructor there who cockblocks me quite often. So, when I'm talking to a girl, he'll come in and start talking directly to the girl like I don't even exist.

This instructor dude has good game and both teaches and performs, so in terms of dance-skills, definitely holds a higher position than me in a dance-venue.

How do I deal with this and not let him cockblock me next time he barges into my set?
Thanks.

Author:  HeavyRota8tion [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:48 am ]
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Nothing. Focus on your game, don't hate on him, if anything "dudes got some moves".

Author:  Dusty-Page [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:36 am ]
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That kinda sucks for a dude to just come in and sabotage your set like that. and you say he does it on the regular?
But with that being said, I'd still advise you to befriend the dude, seeing he already has high value at the place, and "game" like you say.
You'd be awesome by association.

D.P

Author:  puaninja [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:01 pm ]
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Counter-cockblocking maneuvers. What you do is show an incredible amount of interest in HIM. Even if he steps in front of you and edges you out of the set, reposition yourself in front of him or pull his shoulder so he faces you and with high energy and enthusiasm be like "Hey Todd, show me that move from the Macarena again..." or some other dance move. Act like you genuinely want his help and need his advice. Then continue to engage him in conversation and distract him from the set he stole from you. It will make him look like a dick if he tries to ignore an enthusiastic student.

Remember, he doesn't care about you, he just wants your set. So you force him to have to give you his attention, which fucks up his whole game.

Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:31 pm ]
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Befriend him. He will serve you better as an ally than a foe. But if he is the odd one and decides to still AMOG you THEN you can do what PUAninja has offered.

Another method to counter the AMOG is to use body language to close him off. Your peripheral vision will have to be used. Or you can just lead the girl elsewhere.

Author:  mAkon [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:33 pm ]
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+1 to what ninja said, if you do it genuinely enough and he's smart he'll respond positively to you which should lead to you befriending him (def the way to go if you'll be sarging somewhere he has such high value), if he reponds negatively he'll look bad in front of the target (what kind of teacher ignores someone genuinely asking for advice).

Author:  Mike1 [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:03 pm ]
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Thanks for the posts guys, appreciate the help. I'll befriend him to see if that would diffuse the cockblocking tendencies to some extent. Before I posted, I was thinking of just changing venues to avoid this guy, but with that strategy, I'll learn nothing new. I think following the input here will give me an insight on handling similar situations too, which can occur outside pickup as well.

This dude has been cockblocking me the last couple of times I went to this venue. But last night when this happened again, it kind of pissed me off, as one of the girls I was talking to is a solid HB8 with a good background and a potential for more than just a hookup. In retrospect, had that not happened, I wouldn't have posted, and would not see the new approach which seems more solid. So something good did come out of it.

The insight about asking relevant questions to the cockblock was also an eyeopener for me:

There is this girl who is a professor in management that I dance with, an HB6. She acts excessively needy and somewhat desperate, and is also married, and I do not like dancing with her, to be honest.

She is a different variation of a cockblock. So Whenever I am talking to an HB and she is around, she'll come barging in and act very interested and ask me dance-relevant questions that's just impolite to ignore. I'll start to answer, and then, I only realized this the last time, that she leads me away from this HB I was talking to, either with body language or by asking for a dance, which is impolite to refuse in front of the HB of interest. Soon, the HB feels ignored, and leaves.

So, shes been trying similar shit on me. Being in Management, I think she is well aware of these skills she can use to manipulate interactions. Anyways, I stopped talking and dancing with her a couple of weeks back, so that should be the end of it. But other suggestions to deal with this girl are welcome, as I'll continue to see her at the same venue, unfortunately.

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