PUA Forum :: Having back up girls who are not very attractive

I think your strategy is good, as you see what are the things you do that these girls like and things you need to improve, cuz in the end you dont want to stick with them and should not give a shit about how you act or what you say.
I for example learned that being a dominant asshole atracts some girls closer, as they seek the fulfilment of their needs to get the love back in return and so as men, they make the mistake of overpleasing a person from whom you wish that kind of SPAM.
So as other stuff in life, you can not be the best without getting quality practice.
I myself devide love practices into 2 main groups one being quality and other quantity.
Most of the PUA talk about quantity such as: go out, do what you learned, get experience and improve. But quality is much closer to natural game and needs good analitical knowledge.

Author:	StreetWalker [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:16 pm ]
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I have been working on my game day and night the last months. It has started to show results, but mostly HB 5-6. I tend to see them as a stepping stones to getting better looking girls or back up girls as I like to call them. I text them, and might hang out with them ocasionally so that I don't fall back in needy AFC behavior (over texting, attached to outcome etc.). Is this a good strategy, or could it slow down my learning/ or in any other way backfire?

Author:	puaninja [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:45 pm ]
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I think once you dip below hb6 you have to lose the "hb" in front of it. And anything below a 5 is best just not to talk about. Don't go slumming or settle just because your hard up for pussy. Get out there and sarge. Plenty of hb6's and higher are waiting for you.

Author:	Phoenix_ [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:27 am ]
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Ehh this could be troublesome, if your so use to having back up girls of lower caliber, you may not really try as hard as you should be. Think of it like this: Your hungry, you've caught some fish, not too difficult, but you know out there there is a deer with loads of meat and 10X better than the fish. You could go get the deer, but why should you work so hard if you've already got food? Its very similar, you may get too comfortable with your back ups to out and get something better. Like puaninja said go out, and shoot high

Author:	Chinopants [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:28 am ]
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I like keeping some slam pigs around. Thats just me. I have some weird fetishes and they are more open for the not of the norm play. Just saying.

Author:	PUA-Enigma [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:55 am ]
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even so, I would also say move on - the drive is one of the main aspects, whatever you thought was 'too hot' for you 6 months ago should be 'average' now if your game is progressing - this is why I love it! You risk hitting plateau and not having the drive to improve - spend the time you would have spent with them on gaming If it means you lose a few wks of sex then so be it..

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Author:	StreetWalker [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:30 pm ]
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Thanks for the advice. It was exactly this I was afraid of.

Author:	gtdave [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:57 pm ]
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Keeping options open is always good IMO! When I was going after 9s or 10s I would always try and have a couple of 8s to flirt with too. This stopped me getting too attached too soon and would obviously soften the blow if it fell through with the 10. However a lot of the time I ended up being more interested in one of the 8s due to her having a better personality match. Anything to prevent needyness or oneitis is a good thing! Tip: 5 mins before a first date I used to send all the girls I'm flirting with a cheeky/funny text. Then I used to leave my phone on the table at the bar! Girls are always getting texts from guys! Even on your first date! It's nice to be able to show that she's not the only one trying to gain your attention! Plus don't reply to the texts on the date! It's rude but it also serves a more sneaky purpose! If you ever take 4 hours to reply to the first date girl then she will start to think you are on another date which will spike her interest. That's what I found in my experience!

Author:	Mr. Assertive [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:05 pm ]
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Drop the fives. Anything below a six is unnecessary. Strive to get 6.5-7.5's as regulars. Or you can drop the rating scale and deem them as either fuckable or not fuckable, either one is fine. So far so good, it is cool that you are using them as stepping stones but strive to get to the 8's after you feel that you are becoming too comfortable with the 6's and 7's. Always strive to push your comfort zone. I found myself gaming 6 and 7's rather well and now have been focusing on 8s and am becoming comfortable with them.

Author:	Mr. Marville [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:14 pm ]
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Quote: Keeping options open is always good IMO! When I was going after 9s or 10s I would always try and have a couple of 8s to flirt with too. This stopped me getting too attached too soon and would obviously soften the blow if it fell through with the 10. However a lot of the time I ended up being more interested in one of the 8s due to her having a better personality match. Anything to prevent needyness or oneitis is a good thing. This guy is a 100% right. For example I´ve fallen in love with a 10. Yes, a 10. But I find myself so emotionally attached that I spend lots of time with another girl. Not because being emotionally attached is a bad thing that should be avoided, but because I feel I am more committed to her than she is to me. So not being with this other girl would create an inbalance in this relationship and I would lose her.

Author:	StreetWalker [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:33 pm ]
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A lot off good insights. Thank you. The tip about texting the girls you are gaming 5 min before a date is genious! I'll try this tonight. Well, I only use number rating on the forum for practical reasons, I divide girls in YES and NO girls. Yes I would fuck her, or No I would not fuck her. I know my biggest fault before learning game was that I become to eager, which translated to the girl(s) as needy. So this is kind of a fail safe for me, keeping back up girls.

Author:	donttakemywordasthetruth [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:08 pm ]
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I think your strategy is good, as you see what are the things you do that these girls like and things you need to improve, cuz in the end you dont want to stick with them and should not give a shit about how you act or what you say. I for example learned that being a dominant asshole atracts some girls closer, as they seek the fulfilment of their needs to get the love back in return and so as men, they make the mistake of overpleasing a person from whom you wish that kind of SPAM. So as other stuff in life, you can not be the best without getting quality practice. I myself devide love practices into 2 main groups one being quality and other quantity. Most of the PUA talk about quantity such as: go out, do what you learned, get experience and improve. But quality is much closer to natural game and needs good analitical knowledge.

Author:	StreetWalker [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:11 pm ]
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Quote: I think your strategy is good, as you see what are the things you do that these girls like and things you need to improve, cuz in the end you dont want to stick with them and should not give a shit about how you act or what you say. I for example learned that being a dominant asshole atracts some girls closer, as they seek the fulfilment of their needs to get the love back in return and so as men, they make the mistake of overpleasing a person from whom you wish that kind of SPAM. So as other stuff in life, you can not be the best without getting quality practice. I myself devide love practices into 2 main groups one being quality and other quantity. Most of the PUA talk about quantity such as: go out, do what you learned, get experience and improve. But quality is much closer to natural game and needs good analitical knowledge. Tell me more about what you consider to be the quality part

Author:	donttakemywordasthetruth [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:18 pm ]
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Havent realy tried to explain it to myself in a good philosophical way yet. But I guess it is getting to know people personally and later on analize them and try to make a hypothesis on how they would respond in the future to certain emotions/feelings, gestures/body language, thoughts/words. Simply put quality is more of an intuition for most people, while the quantity would be play a game of theory with the best procentage of being successfull with saying what you learned that works for you without too much thinking. So why do I think quality may be better? It is a process of learning characteristics that people possess, and these characteristics or traits are common amongst people. I still beleave every person is its own individual but we can get to know the traits of a certain personality and get to know someone quicker, which means we can connect faster by knowing how to act and eventualy getting to know what to say that can make your conversation with someone get on a good track. If you realy want to know the real truth about this, I would suggest doing all the researcs you can on geneticaly passed traits which are the basics of how we wish to act compared to how we act depending on the environment. I am not good at this yet as I allready said but I did study some genetics and human behaviour, and I do meet new people everywhere without a problem of getting to what they wish to talk about or make them confortable to open up to me.

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