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Author:  will29 [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:47 am ]
Post subject:  If money, looks, or having a job doesnt matter
Then I'd like to know what does it require. My brother and I had an argument this morning. He told I'm not gonna get a dime ass bitch and that I'll have to settle. He also said that I would have to pay $200 to get her sh&t-faced drunk. I even brought up that I was on PUA sites and he said that these kind of sites were for people that had money, a job, and a car.

But I want your take on this. As this is becoming a hard pill for me to swallow. Especially since the money I get covers my entire rent.
Author:  Vitamin-J [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:19 am ]
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Money, Job and looks do count, don't let the marketing departments of PUA companies tell you different.


If your fat, go to the gym. If you're poor, get off your ass and get a job. If you don't have a car, work your ass off so you can get one.


You can get girls without these things but it's way way easier if you have them.


PUA is more about teaching you how to get these things, how to make your life better by fixing the things you're unhappy with and in turn...getting girls is way way easier.
Author:  will29 [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:27 am ]
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Money, Job and looks do count, don't let the marketing departments of PUA companies tell you different.


If your fat, go to the gym. If you're poor, get off your ass and get a job. If you don't have a car, work your ass off so you can get one.


You can get girls without these things but it's way way easier if you have them.


PUA is more about teaching you how to get these things, how to make your life better by fixing the things you're unhappy with and in turn...getting girls is way way easier.


So I have to go through hell to get a car before women?
Author:  MackAttack [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:57 am ]
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NOO YOU HAVE TO GET UR LIFE TOGETHER!!! still go out and game girls, but at the same time, get ur life in check bro. You can do it, go watch pursuit of happiness and ull see a whole new light on how to achieve things
Author:  *FlaiR* [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:56 am ]
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apEoEbyIEO8[/youtube]
Author:  0uch [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:16 am ]
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Yes, money and looks matter if you have nothing else going for you. But here is the thing, it will not matter if you got yourself a really cool identity. For example, if your in a rock band, you guys did shows, you can still be broke and ugly and get cute girls.

But again, this all comes down to the girl. For some girls, a rich lawyer is the type of guy she goes for, while other will go for the guy in the band. So it will never come down to you getting 100 % of girls you game.

I should also note that being a "cute" guy is not gonna do it. You have to develop an identity that attracts women if you wanna maximize your potential. It dont have to be a guy in a rockband, it could be a doctor.

So stop being a loser. Knowing PUA stuff does mean you can sit home all day and watch tv and go out and night try to pick up girls. If you want a cute girl, 30 other guys are gonna be after, and who ever she wants to be with will not be based on who is the cutest or who has the PUA routine. It will come down to his identity.
Author:  pumpington [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:05 am ]
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Money, Job and looks do count, don't let the marketing departments of PUA companies tell you different.


If your fat, go to the gym. If you're poor, get off your ass and get a job. If you don't have a car, work your ass off so you can get one.


You can get girls without these things but it's way way easier if you have them.


PUA is more about teaching you how to get these things, how to make your life better by fixing the things you're unhappy with and in turn...getting girls is way way easier.


So I have to go through hell to get a car before women?
that'a boy, reading ftw
Author:  will29 [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:17 pm ]
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Yes I got the way easier if you have them part. But I cannot be a doctor I have not even went to college. I guess the fake it til you make it part is where I come in but I'm too unathletic to even look the part.
Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:25 pm ]
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as long as you are being productive and making your life worth living, you will naturally attract women. I don't really see why you wouldn't want to make your life as fulfilling as possible...
Author:  Entourages [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:32 pm ]
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All that matters is your confidence, and if you are congruent with yourself. I don't have a car, a house, anything, fuck sakes I live with my parents still (cause im 18) but I still am able to get with quality girls mate.

All you need is to be able to hold a fucknig conversation, that is witty, funny, and entertaining, more importantly it entertains you. Girls like that you are enjoying yourself, not taking yourself so seriously, and just living in the moment, you dont need a lambo to do this, all you need is yourself, and one sexy ass mother fucking personality. (twat you prob were thinking I say something materialistic)

Just learn about inner-game and then go out there. RSD shall do you wonders.
Author:  0uch [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:43 pm ]
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Yes I got the way easier if you have them part. But I cannot be a doctor I have not even went to college. I guess the fake it til you make it part is where I come in but I'm too unathletic to even look the part.
You don't have to be a doctor, in fact it does not even have to work. Guys in rock band, is not work for them and is not even about women, is something they really enjoy doing but it attracts bunch of girls.

Do something with your life that you enjoy and will also attract girls to it. What I do right now, I truly enjoy, it was never about women or money. But it attracts girls. Not all but the ones that like what I do. It does not have to be work, and you don't need school for it.
Author:  HeavyRota8tion [ Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:50 pm ]
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All that matters is your confidence, and if you are congruent with yourself. I don't have a car, a house, anything, fuck sakes I live with my parents still (cause im 18) but I still am able to get with quality girls mate.

All you need is to be able to hold a fucknig conversation, that is witty, funny, and entertaining, more importantly it entertains you. Girls like that you are enjoying yourself, not taking yourself so seriously, and just living in the moment, you dont need a lambo to do this, all you need is yourself, and one sexy ass mother fucking personality. (twat you prob were thinking I say something materialistic)

Just learn about inner-game and then go out there. RSD shall do you wonders.
You can be the whittiest guy on the planet if she has 0 PHYSICAL attraction towards you it'll mean f*ck all.
Author:  Vitamin-J [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:50 am ]
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Money, Job and looks do count, don't let the marketing departments of PUA companies tell you different.


If your fat, go to the gym. If you're poor, get off your ass and get a job. If you don't have a car, work your ass off so you can get one.


You can get girls without these things but it's way way easier if you have them.


PUA is more about teaching you how to get these things, how to make your life better by fixing the things you're unhappy with and in turn...getting girls is way way easier.


So I have to go through hell to get a car before women?

Nothing is easy bro, work your ass off to get girls with out looks or work your ass off to get the things that girls look for and honestly, it works both ways, I don't want a girl that lives with her parents, doesn't have a job or transportation and I sure as shit don't want a girl that's ugly. Now there is a little more to this than meets the eye...


People that are well centered in their lives tend to be way less needy and way more confident and I'm sorry to tell the RSD fan boy's out there that but...


RSD teaches that being confident and congruent is the only thing that matters, be confident and girls well rip there clothes off and throw themselves at you :roll:

1. By nature we compare ourselves to other people around us, it's hard wired into our brains to do that and it's what gives us the drive to do well for ourselves, that feeling is normal and healthy and the reason it's there is to make you want to be as good or better than your peers, that being said, minimum standards for men is to provide for yourself and have something to offer a woman as well. That doesn't mean buy them everything they want. It does mean if you invite her out to dinner....fucking pay for it...it means be productive in life, if you're a student chances are the girls you're dating are too and they're understanding and excepting of the collage kid life style. If you're 25 years old and living with mom and dad...get a fucking job and support yourself. If everyone in your age group is driving that means you've had the time to make something of yourself as they have and if you want a girl in that age group...You should probably be have a job and a car.


2. Yes wit is nice, a sense of humor is a must, confidence is attractive but the simple fact of life is there are a ton of men out there that have all this naturally, If you have wit, humor and confidence, but you're broke and don't have a car, don't take care of your appearance and can't pay for shit, don't think you're going to have a better chance than a guy that does have a care, house, good job wit, humor, takes care of himself and having all those things makes it WAY easier to have confidence...you're not going to stand a big chance...

3. Life takes work, sorry to tell you. Yes, go through hell, get a car, get a job, go to the gym and beat the hell out of yourself, get an education, make money, buy a house because these things are going to make YOU happy and girls love a man that takes care of himself...FACT.


Sorry RSD, being happy with yourself doesn't hold a note against being PROUD of yourself.
Author:  *FlaiR* [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:35 am ]
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make money, buy a house because these things are going to make YOU happy
You're clearly not aware of how the ego in each person works. You should NOT rely on buying a house or making a lot of money to be happy. Happiness is an internal state...you hold the key within yourself. Immediately when you attach external factors (house,money) to how you feel, you're feeding your ego with what it wants. It wants to attach itself to anything that's external; anything that gives him a reason to not feel complete. "Until I don't have a big house, I'm not happy". That's why people can live in caves and sit on benches for years at a time and feel more happy than a millionaire, who bases all his emotional state on external circumstances.


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By nature we compare ourselves to other people around us
False. Comparing yourself with other people is the ego's task. You are already borned perfect/complete. The moment you compare your status / job / money / with anything external and other people, you're creating a false identity out of yourself. When society has been created and social order started appearing, that's when we started comparing ourselves with people and creating external identities out of them. "You're a slave". "You're an engineer". Putting labels on each person and everyone associating who they are with what they do in life. That's when the human mind started analysing and comparing itself with other people. We are NOT borned to compare ourselves all the time. That's why people are able to attained "enlightenment" and get rid completely of their ego..because comparing is something that's added to the human mind, not borned in it.


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you want to be as good or better than your peers
Once again, the ego's in the equation. You want to feel better than your peers because your identity is threatened by your friends possessions / accomplishments. You feel like you're not enough, based on external factors...the only problem is, you are already enough. Your ego doesn't think like that. It feels threatened..it wants to survive.


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People that are well centered in their lives tend to be way less needy and way more confident
This is exactly what RSD teaches..


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I'm sorry to tell the RSD fan boy's out there that but...
I respect RSD because the most amazing results with women I had in my entire life was due to their SOLID advice and amazing applicable concepts in real life. I give credit where it must be given. If you don't know what RSD's about, don't comment..


FlaiR
Author:  Vitamin-J [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:22 am ]
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You're clearly not aware of how the ego in each person works. You should NOT rely on buying a house or making a lot of money to be happy. Happiness is an internal state...you hold the key within yourself. Immediately when you attach external factors (house,money) to how you feel, you're feeding your ego with what it wants. It wants to attach itself to anything that's external; anything that gives him a reason to not feel complete. "Until I don't have a big house, I'm not happy". That's why people can live in caves and sit on benches for years at a time and feel more happy than a millionaire, who bases all his emotional state on external circumstances.
you're speaking in incomplete thoughts, yes happiness is an internal state, however we are subject to outside influences on that state. minimizing the impact of those outside influences makes it easier to hold that state. This whole "think happy and you'll be happy" crap is away of selling crap, just like diet pills, everyone wants the end result without the hard work. A house and money may not equal happy, but having a solid stable living situation and not worrying about how you're going to make the next bill payments lowers common stress. Having pride in taking a girl back to a home you worked your ass off, feels better than taking her back to your cave or your park bench, if you do take her back to your cave or park bench she'll probably say "you live in a cave...ew" rejections effects everyone, it damages confidence and weakens state. I don't care who you are or what crap you've read or how many RSD video's you've watched, that is a fact in human psychological behavior

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False. Comparing yourself with other people is the ego's task. You are already borned perfect/complete. The moment you compare your status / job / money / with anything external and other people, you're creating a false identity out of yourself. When society has been created and social order started appearing, that's when we started comparing ourselves with people and creating external identities out of them. "You're a slave". "You're an engineer". Putting labels on each person and everyone associating who they are with what they do in life. That's when the human mind started analysing and comparing itself with other people. We are NOT borned to compare ourselves all the time. That's why people are able to attained "enlightenment" and get rid completely of their ego..because comparing is something that's added to the human mind, not borned in it.
False, The "ego" is a function of self worth, we compare ourselves to others because the human mind makes value assessments based on desirably, believing lead is more valuable than gold is a great thought but the simple fact is every outside influence will tell you other wise, to ignore the outside evaluations is a sign of clinical narcissism or just stupidity.
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Once again, the ego's in the equation. You want to feel better than your peers because your identity is threatened by your friends possessions / accomplishments. You feel like you're not enough, based on external factors...the only problem is, you are already enough. Your ego doesn't think like that. It feels threatened..it wants to survive.

To think you're enough just as you are is to lack the drive to better yourself. Yes I'm great...so far, but I can be better, I should be better and I will be better, there's a word for it.....a...ammmm......amb.....ambition!!! and that's a good thing ;)
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I respect RSD because the most amazing results with women I had in my entire life was due to their SOLID advice and amazing applicable concepts in real life. I give credit where it must be given. If you don't know what RSD's about, don't comment..

RSD has a few good things about it, but the idea that "you're good enough as you are, no matter what" is a pussy mind set. You should only be happy with who you are if you are worth being happy over, if you're not, get off your ass and change it.

Ego is a good thing, I lift lost of weights so I can carry mine around and look damn fine doing it ;)
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