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Author:  Pikeman85 [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Critique what I did wrong with this girl

Ok, so the night started (and honestly, ended well, though I could have f closed and didn't)

Went to dinner at a random location in my new town, made friends and went to watch the sports game with them, eventually got bored, went to a local dance club, which was dead.

Left and went to this cool little bar near my house (I really want to game one of the bartenders there, but she wasn't there and it's cool otherwise)

Anyway, started dancing and getting to know people there, saw this girl with GIGANTIC TITS - skinny body, sitting with three other people (two guys, one girl. She was in between the a girl and a huge, tall guy)

My buddy says I'd better approach her - so I do.

The guy immediately stands up - and I sit down next to her. She starts talking about her halloween costume. I listen, make funny comments, start touching her arm, and gradually put my arm around her.

She seems fine with all of that, but possibly a little bored. But she didn't stop me and kept talking.

So I decided to ramp up and pull a trick I saw in a video (whisper sexual stuff while talking mundanely)

I failed at doing this - I whispered in her ear (you are hot as fuck) and she said, not whispering "that's nice".

She said she needed to get water, got up - I took that as my cue to leave her be, I had failed.

Walked back to my buddy - he told me to approach again and just invite her to leave - I felt this was a bad idea, but figured, why the hell not.

She said "leave where?" when I asked, and I had no good response. So she said "no"

At that point I gave up on her for the night (though I befriended plenty of her other friends, and she's a regular, so I will probably get another shot with her if I want (god, she had some of the biggest boobs I've seen!)

Anyway, after that I went dancing on the dance floor, and almost right in front of her ( unintentionally, just how the room was shaped) pulled a cute girl and got her number (this girl apparently would have been willing to go to my place if I had asked, grrr)


So, what mistakes did I make with the hot boobed girl? I don't feel I super creeped her out, so I probably have another chance with her, right?

Was hitting on the girl right in front of her a good move? I didn't do it intentionally, but it worked well, I think.

Author:  Streetfighter [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:39 pm ]
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seriously? your mistake wasn't 'lets leave' it was saying lets go back to mine or where you wanted her to go with you to... she was in and you were under prepared.

next time plan where you want to leave with her to, sounds like you did well

Author:  puaninja [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:55 pm ]
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In all my pua studies, I've never once heard a pua use the line: "You are hot as fuck."
That's AFC shit bro. I would expect every woman in the world to have that same reaction, or worse.

And if you are going to try to pull her without putting any effort into it, just apocalypse close at that point. "Will you come home with me right now?" And wait for her response.

Hitting on the other girl in front of her was a good move though. She blows you out and then sits there quietly not doing shit, meanwhile she sees you having fun with some other woman that you'll probably take home and bang for all she knows.

Author:  Pikeman85 [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:00 pm ]
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Got it. I'll ban that line from my vocabulary.

I was trying to change the vibe, but I can see how it would fail.

Do you guys think I should hit on her again if i see her? And how should I lead?

Author:  Pikeman85 [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:03 pm ]
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I think part of me finds it hard to fathom that apocalypse can work on hot girls. I need to get over that limiting factor.

Hell, I had two girls it sounds like I could have taken home last night and I took neither home.

Author:  puaninja [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:10 pm ]
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It sounds like you aren't confident in your closes, and while you have good approaching skills, and perhaps good comfort building skills, your attraction and seduction components, along with your closing routine, is lacking.

I would recommend a better, more complex close than the apocalypse, all things being equal. But in your situation that would've been far better than what you actually did. Why didn't you try to dance with boob girl btw?

Author:  Pikeman85 [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:16 pm ]
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I didn't think to invite her to - I'm still not confident with my dancing - though apparently I've gotten pretty good, so I should be.

It's just hard for me to viscerally understand that I can close so quickly. I've done it before, I know it can be done, but it just seems impossible. I'm still not past the whole "you can meet a girl, know her briefly, and fuck her" idea. My friend has picked up that aspect better than I have.

My comfort building skills are hit or miss. Sometimes I'm good, other times I blow myself out.

I think boob girl had a "you'll do" attitude towards me when I initially hit on her. It was near close, and there weren't many attractive guys there, and none looked to have hit on her.

Author:  Pikeman85 [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:19 pm ]
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I need to study more comfort building and closing exercises.

Author:  Streetfighter [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:48 pm ]
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Although this example of saying 'you're hot as fuck' didn't work it still can in the manner you described. It just didn't work this time, or it wasn't delivered well. If you learn to use it you can keep it in the arsenal and why not experiment when the set is going dry.

You built enough attraction for the pull and it was hardly apocalypse with the field work you had done..

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