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Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:20 am ]
Post subject:  2 years into PUA, what I've discovered
Been doing PUA for 2 years now, here's some tips

1: CHICKS WANT DICK. Chicks are hanging out for dudes to hit on them so they can get their pussies filled, so do them a favour and hit on them and fuck them.

2: ALWAYS PRESUME SHES INTERESTED. No matter what stage of the pick-up you're at, always presume she's keen.

3: JUST FUCKING ESCALATE. Escalate escalate escalate. Just fucking escalate!

4: FUCK HER NOW. Fuck her now, no matter where you are or what you are doing, touch her now, talk dirty to her now, fuck her now!

5: KEEP IT SIMPLE. Don't over complicate the whole process, focus on key aspects, don't get carried away too much with stuff that barely matters.
Author:  PUA Reality [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:49 am ]
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I agree 300% with everything you said. The thing I learned that stood out to me the most is to not chase, but make her chase. I always thought that the man had to be the one chasing and being persistent when in fact its much more effective to bait her to chase you.
Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:22 am ]
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Two basic ways to do it, chase or bait, both work.

If you send two guys out into the world, one chases and one baits, give them a week and the guy who chased will come back with more F-closes under his belt than the guy that baits. Chasing is more time efficient, you're not sitting back waiting for her to take the inititive, you are just bloody getting on with it and if she's not biting you just move on to the next girl and go hell-for-leather on her.

When it comes to pure time efficiency, I'm convinced chasing, overall, is superior method. If you have to pick a stratergy for the rest of your life, chase, you'll get more.
Author:  recci [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:02 pm ]
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When you bait a woman, you get a much more powerful attraction from her!
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:26 pm ]
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Only problem I have with that is that chicks aren't always "hanging out" somewhere. If you are referring to club sluts, then yes, that is true. But a lot of times the women are living their lives and aren't just waiting for guys to come plug their holes. Sometimes they are getting sex somewhere else and don't want it from you, or they convince themselves they don't need sex. That doesn't mean you can't give it to them. But it does mean that you have to run a somewhat indirect game on them and not escalate straight to sex. You may have to pretend to be her friend and let her tell you about how much her husband doesn't listen to her enough, then fuck her once her guard is down.
Author:  Body Language [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:36 pm ]
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I am here to play devils advocate with puaninja's post :D

Something I always bear in mind is a quote from the movie Hitch, "no women wakes up in the morning and thinks, "I don't want to be swept off my feet today"".

It doesn't matter if they are hanging out, dancing, playing cards, reading a book, whatever, they are all susceptible to being swept off there feet some way or another. If I didn't believe that then I wouldn't even think about gaming at anytime besides an orgy!

I know everything isn't as simple as "I would so she would to" but hay, no matter what I am doing I'm ready to be loved. Everybody wants to be loved and liked. If not then this cruel world we live in is hell!! :evil:
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:01 pm ]
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Unfortunately I've just seen too many real life examples, that honestly are isolated from my game and my endeavors, which reinforce the fact that some women are simply not interested in being gamed, or are at least not "waiting around for it". My signature below is in fact a mockery of this very point. Girls get dressed to the nines, go out to the club, lead men on or outright reject them, then go home and sleep alone in their beds on a Saturday night.

Think about it. There's an equal number of men and women in the world. So if there are tons and tons of AFC's out there who aren't getting laid, then mathematically there are an equal number of woman not getting laid either. Many AFCs try to get laid, and most women know they could get laid if they wanted to. They don't even have to really do anything to make it happen. For whatever reason, some women just prefer to be alone or are too stupid to realize they could enjoy themselves more with a man if they'd be open to it.
Author:  Body Language [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:40 pm ]
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Although I want to agree with you puaninja, its hard to feel its not an excuse. With that mentality it like we are saying "she didn't want it" as apposed to "I didn't have it". Its like we are making excuses for not getting what we want if you catch my drift? Maybe I am just a control freak but I hate making excuses, I have to accept responsibility and learn from my mistakes. Perhaps I have the making of a serial killer or something :twisted:

With regards to the equal amounts of genders practicing masturbation each evening, I find a flaw in your logic. You assume that only men can be AFC's which I whole heartily disagree with. Although it is true that women have a largely easier time picking sexual partners society still tells them they shouldn't. They still have to break through barriers just like us choded bastards. Although for a man having sex with many women makes him a "player", "pimp" or whatever, it puts alot of pressure on us guys. We are in constant competition. Equally hard for a women is being labeled a slut, they have to find away around that.

I hope I have made myself clear enough for you :?

What im trying to say is, society and the community as a whole are equally difficult for both men and women to traverse so any attempt to blame the other for hardship just seems like one big cop out. Take responsibility for yourself and dont take no for an answer. Although no means no, fifty nos and a yes means YES!

:P
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:05 pm ]
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Body Language,

You can't help but agree because it's true. And you don't want to agree because it's an excuse which could deprive you of women, which is also true. Understand the truth behind it, but don't let that limit you, and don't let it be an excuse, especially if you are well aware of this pitfall.

There are female AFC's. I've thought about this considerably. A female AFC is simply a woman who has no idea how to behave around men. Hot chicks, they play men like fiddles. But AFC women have no idea how to manipulate men and they actually train men to treat them like shit, that is if they don't drive the men away completely. I've known women, family members included, who are actually AFRAID of men. They dislike sex and apparently don't want to do it at all. Typically this is a result of bad female role models, bad parenting, and bad experiences with low-quality men in the past. There's definitely parallels between the sexes in this respect.
Author:  Body Language [ Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:12 pm ]
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Once again you have won me over with your clarity and pre-thought. Maybe you are right but I hate it!

All the best
Author:  vicparkguy83 [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:56 am ]
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There's plenty of girls who put out the vibe "I don't want sex" and they may even believe it themselves. Every time a girl like this enters my social circle I think hmm maybe we found a real one, BUT THEY ALL CRACK EVENTUALLY, this has happened time and time again.

And when I've found out the story behind it, most cracked under strong direct game. These girls are over-thinkers, escalating like crazy doesn't give them time to think, the longer time goes on, the more time they have to think, the less likely you'll get an F-close.

This is another thing I've found. Girls like this often ONLY respond to direct game. Everyone is convinced that you must bait this girl in order to get her, but in fact the ONLY way to get her is direct. In fact I found whatever vibes she's putting off, the best way to game her is the OPPOSITE way of the vibes.
Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:33 am ]
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There's plenty of girls who put out the vibe "I don't want sex" and they may even believe it themselves. Every time a girl like this enters my social circle I think hmm maybe we found a real one, BUT THEY ALL CRACK EVENTUALLY, this has happened time and time again.

And when I've found out the story behind it, most cracked under strong direct game. These girls are over-thinkers, escalating like crazy doesn't give them time to think, the longer time goes on, the more time they have to think, the less likely you'll get an F-close.

This is another thing I've found. Girls like this often ONLY respond to direct game. Everyone is convinced that you must bait this girl in order to get her, but in fact the ONLY way to get her is direct. In fact I found whatever vibes she's putting off, the best way to game her is the OPPOSITE way of the vibes.

LOL, has some truth. I remember this one chick who repeatedly tried to act aloof, and I wasn't having it. I got aggressive and eventually got the lay. She was all like "oh, i am picky with guys, blah blah" and tried to bait me into becoming one of her orbiters. Nope. Hell no.
Author:  puaninja [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:37 pm ]
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I used to think that when a girl said she is picky with guys it meant that she only likes high quality guys and that I am not one of them. But all it really means is that she gives most guys shit, and when she randomly decides she wants attention/a boyfriend/or to get laid, then she hooks up with the next guy who hits on her.
Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:08 pm ]
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I used to think that when a girl said she is picky with guys it meant that she only likes high quality guys and that I am not one of them. But all it really means is that she gives most guys shit, and when she randomly decides she wants attention/a boyfriend/or to get laid, then she hooks up with the next guy who hits on her.

Haha, yeah, unfortunately she does have a decent amount of guys like that hovering around her. She posts statuses about "I am not easily impressed", so you are spot on the theme she wants to portray herself in and these guys eat it up.


She did give me a lot of shit tests and lots of "I am busy" or the "I don't like jerks" and blah blah blah. I just decided to get aggressive and even went as far as to tell her to shut up already, lol(so most of the points the OP made is fairly accurate). I still have her around because she is a pretty cool person once you get pass the shields.
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