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Author:  DeividR [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:50 am ]
Post subject:  Help needed, dont know what to do!
Hi guys, I'm David and I'm a amateur PUA, Ive just started and I have this situation.. I hope someone can give me a direction to go!

I met this girl in Prague, we were on vacations and traveling alone, we had a small talk in our hostel and changed our facebooks and she said "see you in Argentina! (my country)".. after a couple of weeks and sending some fb messages (a few) she came back (9/25) and yesterday after several days chating by facebook (I always started the conversations.. we chatted for hours and had a good time) we went to see a movie, then dinner and we had a good time .. I think I've seen several IOI .. and today I sent her a text to see again and she told me "haha I dont know haha" but we had messages the entire day and they were boring stuff .. I want to tell her what I feel but I dont know if I am on the LJBF zone.. I dont know how to proceed!
Thanks guys for your time and knowledge!
Author:  charblad [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:23 am ]
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You talked to her for hours, only exchanged facebooks at first, took her to a movie, then dinner, and left her
Do you think she has ANY reason to think you're anything more than a friend?
As for a direction to go I hope another pua helps you since I'm stuck on what to do, only advice I have is keep gaming other girls
Author:  Ravengage [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:28 am ]
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Arrange some way for you guys to hang out again. Don't just ask her out, be very casual about it. Then when you're alone slowly escalate. Whether or not you guys admit to calling it a "date" is irrelevant, you're alone with her so you have a chance to seduce. So do that.

Key word is escalation. Get over your fear and nervousness. As in doing things that are more than social and platonic. Take it slow. Listen to her body not her words. When encountering resistance just slow down then try again later. Don't give up.

If done right you can turn 2 friends hanging out into 2 friends kissing into 2 friends having sex. I doubt you will all in 1 night but it'll get you further ahead, keep doing it until you hit home base.
Author:  Paul_T [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:01 am ]
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The guys are right - you haven't got enough of a response to know if you are in the friend zone or not yet. But I would try and find out as soon as possible - tell her you want to show her cool parts of the city. Then during this, stop her and tell her you think she is really attractive (You know what... You're really attractive when you play with your hair like that"). Pay attention to her response - smiling/blushing/looking shy/bashful etc. mean she likes you. Looking uncomfortable/awkward/slightly pained/sorry means she doesn't.

If you get a good response, or a response that you aren't sure what it means, then a bit later hedge your bets and tell her you want to take her out for drinks that evening. If she likes you, she'll likely say yes. If she doesn't like you, she'll say no and offer no alternative date - in which case you've now found out and saved yourself a load of time that can be spent meeting new girls :)

Good luck!
Author:  Ravengage [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:35 am ]
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The guys are right - you haven't got enough of a response to know if you are in the friend zone or not yet. But I would try and find out as soon as possible - tell her you want to show her cool parts of the city. Then during this, stop her and tell her you think she is really attractive (You know what... You're really attractive when you play with your hair like that"). Pay attention to her response - smiling/blushing/looking shy/bashful etc. mean she likes you. Looking uncomfortable/awkward/slightly pained/sorry means she doesn't.
Sorry man but I disagree with this. Best seduction is not verbal, its physical. When it comes to potential-friendzone or even deep-friendzone girls and trying to convert them into something more by far the best way that I know of is to keep away from any sort of verbal seduction. Keep the conversation purely social and friendlike while letting your body do the escalation and setting a sexual vibe by moving in close, keeping eye contact, etc.

Likewise don't listen to any verbal resistance, only physical like her pulling away or you know... slapping you. If she verbally resits then stop, relax, keep talking fluff and try physically escalating again later.
Author:  Paul_T [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:55 am ]
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The guys are right - you haven't got enough of a response to know if you are in the friend zone or not yet. But I would try and find out as soon as possible - tell her you want to show her cool parts of the city. Then during this, stop her and tell her you think she is really attractive (You know what... You're really attractive when you play with your hair like that"). Pay attention to her response - smiling/blushing/looking shy/bashful etc. mean she likes you. Looking uncomfortable/awkward/slightly pained/sorry means she doesn't.
Sorry man but I disagree with this. Best seduction is not verbal, its physical. When it comes to potential-friendzone or even deep-friendzone girls and trying to convert them into something more by far the best way that I know of is to keep away from any sort of verbal seduction. Keep the conversation purely social and friendlike while letting your body do the escalation and setting a sexual vibe by moving in close, keeping eye contact, etc.

Likewise don't listen to any verbal resistance, only physical like her pulling away or you know... slapping you. If she verbally resits then stop, relax, keep talking fluff and try physically escalating again later.
I disagree :) All seduction is non verbal. It has to be - about 93% of communication is non-verbal. But when it comes to potential friendzone there are a couple of things which are always a given:

- Most guys (like our guy here) get into the friend zone by a lack of making a move. A lack of leading and pushing the interaction.
- trying to get out of the friend zone always holds the small possibility of ruining the friendship, whether you try verbally or non verbally. (It'snot actually that big a risk - lots of girls will respect you more for being honest, but I digress...)
- verbally escalating is attractive as it shows balls. Therefore if you are being a bit clunky with your physical escalation, but you are verbally escalating, then you stand a better chance of still looking really attractive and therefore getting the girl.

Therefore I still recommend you both verbally and physically escalate to have the best chance to get this girl :)
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