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Author:  Didiuz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Urgent help. Inner game issues. Like real inner game issues.
Well. I have this friend who I recently have been trying to learn "pua".
First it went really well. I managed to get him to understand some basic's and some do's and dont's.

But after a while he'sbeen really opening up to me, and the shit i see. This guy has no self-confidence at all. He start's obsessing over a new girl every second week on top of his constant one-itis ( whom for the record is not reall that hot ad is quite a slut)
He also constantly whines about how no girls like him for who he is, how he's gonna be a celibate,blablablablablablabal.

He also constantly whines about his appeareance when he infact has a god like body. Ripped like fuck. HIs face is maybe not 10/10 but he's neither ugly. I've done all i can to make him realize looks arent everything. To no gain at all.

He has some real inner game issues. I really cant figure out what to do. I've tried to get him to read various pua material. Even eckhart tolle in an attempt to make him stop being so nervous and caring so much. I've told him over and over again that looks dont matter that much and that he should stop caring so much.
It's like talking to a brick wall.

As of a few minutes back from when im writing this. I sent him magic bullets in a futile attempt to atleast make him able to get girls using routines and that shit so that his confidence eventually will rise and he will realise looks dont matter. His answer after reading a maximum of 15 pages?
"Im givin up, This aint working. Im gonna wait until i can get my nose fixed in 1-2 years"

I really cant figure out what to do. He seems tottaly lost to me.

Does anyone know anything that could help this lost soul?

Is sending him to a psychiatrist a viable option?
Is there anything i can do to make him fucking realize?

Maybe someone has some references to buttugly guys doing some solid "pick up"?
Author:  Warmth [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Urgent help. Inner game issues. Like real inner game issues.
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Well. I have this friend who I recently have been trying to learn "pua".
First it went really well. I managed to get him to understand some basic's and some do's and dont's.

But after a while he'sbeen really opening up to me, and the shit i see. This guy has no self-confidence at all. He start's obsessing over a new girl every second week on top of his constant one-itis ( whom for the record is not reall that hot ad is quite a slut)
He also constantly whines about how no girls like him for who he is, how he's gonna be a celibate,blablablablablablabal.

He also constantly whines about his appeareance when he infact has a god like body. Ripped like fuck. HIs face is maybe not 10/10 but he's neither ugly. I've done all i can to make him realize looks arent everything. To no gain at all.

He has some real inner game issues. I really cant figure out what to do. I've tried to get him to read various pua material. Even eckhart tolle in an attempt to make him stop being so nervous and caring so much. I've told him over and over again that looks dont matter that much and that he should stop caring so much.
It's like talking to a brick wall.

As of a few minutes back from when im writing this. I sent him magic bullets in a futile attempt to atleast make him able to get girls using routines and that shit so that his confidence eventually will rise and he will realise looks dont matter. His answer after reading a maximum of 15 pages?
"Im givin up, This aint working. Im gonna wait until i can get my nose fixed in 1-2 years"

I really cant figure out what to do. He seems tottaly lost to me.

Does anyone know anything that could help this lost soul?

Is sending him to a psychiatrist a viable option?
Is there anything i can do to make him fucking realize?

Maybe someone has some references to buttugly guys doing some solid "pick up"?
wait.. so is this guy ugly or not?

Well there are footage of ugly guys scoring. This guy has a fucking conviction that he isn´t attractive though. Your work process to change him is flawed though. Don´t make him read stuff.. He´s your friend, go out with him and sarge! Ask girls what they think of your friends and most girls will say cute.. or tell girls to compliment his body or whatever
Author:  Didiuz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Urgent help. Inner game issues. Like real inner game issues.
Quote:
Quote:
Well. I have this friend who I recently have been trying to learn "pua".
First it went really well. I managed to get him to understand some basic's and some do's and dont's.

But after a while he'sbeen really opening up to me, and the shit i see. This guy has no self-confidence at all. He start's obsessing over a new girl every second week on top of his constant one-itis ( whom for the record is not reall that hot ad is quite a slut)
He also constantly whines about how no girls like him for who he is, how he's gonna be a celibate,blablablablablablabal.

He also constantly whines about his appeareance when he infact has a god like body. Ripped like fuck. HIs face is maybe not 10/10 but he's neither ugly. I've done all i can to make him realize looks arent everything. To no gain at all.

He has some real inner game issues. I really cant figure out what to do. I've tried to get him to read various pua material. Even eckhart tolle in an attempt to make him stop being so nervous and caring so much. I've told him over and over again that looks dont matter that much and that he should stop caring so much.
It's like talking to a brick wall.

As of a few minutes back from when im writing this. I sent him magic bullets in a futile attempt to atleast make him able to get girls using routines and that shit so that his confidence eventually will rise and he will realise looks dont matter. His answer after reading a maximum of 15 pages?
"Im givin up, This aint working. Im gonna wait until i can get my nose fixed in 1-2 years"

I really cant figure out what to do. He seems tottaly lost to me.

Does anyone know anything that could help this lost soul?

Is sending him to a psychiatrist a viable option?
Is there anything i can do to make him fucking realize?

Maybe someone has some references to buttugly guys doing some solid "pick up"?
wait.. so is this guy ugly or not?

Well there are footage of ugly guys scoring. This guy has a fucking conviction that he isn´t attractive though. Your work process to change him is flawed though. Don´t make him read stuff.. He´s your friend, go out with him and sarge! Ask girls what they think of your friends and most girls will say cute.. or tell girls to compliment his body or whatever
Well hes not ugly. He's neither handsome. He's more or less your average fella.

And that's actually a good idea.
Mayhaps not as easy as you make it sound. But a great idea nontheless.
We do live quite a distance from eachother but the next time we are able to meet i'll do this.

Further suggestion's are anyhow also welcome :)
Author:  puaninja [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:18 pm ]
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You have to address the source of his self-imposed sense of inadequacy. In the horror film "Carrie" her mother tainted her brain by continually telling her "There all gonna laugh at you!" I bet your friend has some fucked up childhood trauma that is the source of his inner game issues. Try to delve into that if you can, or see about getting the dude help. Especially if you have tried every other reasonable approach to working through this issue and he is just putting up a wall and being all negative.
Author:  Warmth [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Urgent help. Inner game issues. Like real inner game issues.
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Well. I have this friend who I recently have been trying to learn "pua".
First it went really well. I managed to get him to understand some basic's and some do's and dont's.

But after a while he'sbeen really opening up to me, and the shit i see. This guy has no self-confidence at all. He start's obsessing over a new girl every second week on top of his constant one-itis ( whom for the record is not reall that hot ad is quite a slut)
He also constantly whines about how no girls like him for who he is, how he's gonna be a celibate,blablablablablablabal.

He also constantly whines about his appeareance when he infact has a god like body. Ripped like fuck. HIs face is maybe not 10/10 but he's neither ugly. I've done all i can to make him realize looks arent everything. To no gain at all.

He has some real inner game issues. I really cant figure out what to do. I've tried to get him to read various pua material. Even eckhart tolle in an attempt to make him stop being so nervous and caring so much. I've told him over and over again that looks dont matter that much and that he should stop caring so much.
It's like talking to a brick wall.

As of a few minutes back from when im writing this. I sent him magic bullets in a futile attempt to atleast make him able to get girls using routines and that shit so that his confidence eventually will rise and he will realise looks dont matter. His answer after reading a maximum of 15 pages?
"Im givin up, This aint working. Im gonna wait until i can get my nose fixed in 1-2 years"

I really cant figure out what to do. He seems tottaly lost to me.

Does anyone know anything that could help this lost soul?

Is sending him to a psychiatrist a viable option?
Is there anything i can do to make him fucking realize?

Maybe someone has some references to buttugly guys doing some solid "pick up"?
wait.. so is this guy ugly or not?

Well there are footage of ugly guys scoring. This guy has a fucking conviction that he isn´t attractive though. Your work process to change him is flawed though. Don´t make him read stuff.. He´s your friend, go out with him and sarge! Ask girls what they think of your friends and most girls will say cute.. or tell girls to compliment his body or whatever
Well hes not ugly. He's neither handsome. He's more or less your average fella.

And that's actually a good idea.
Mayhaps not as easy as you make it sound. But a great idea nontheless.
We do live quite a distance from eachother but the next time we are able to meet i'll do this.

Further suggestion's are anyhow also welcome :)
Yeah the distance problem is though.. but its not like you have to get him laid, just show him that girls aren´t repulsed by him and actually sees him as a potential somebody in their life.

All coaches deals with this on a weekly basis. you don´t need to analyze his child hood traumas. Even if he realizes that his fears comes from him being bullied by a bitch of a big sister (I blame all my pre-game failures on her), that won´t make him good with women and he´ll still be as miserable.. He´ll just know why. You can help him figure that shit out but it will take ages as opposed to just show him a demo.
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