PUA Forum :: Alright, so need a little help with this demanding chickk

She knows that she can just flake whenever and it'll be ok.

She's trying to train you. But honestly, those simple things like walking her to her car and opening the door are chivalric and mandatory for a lot of girls, and frankly you're lucky she's telling you and continuing to see you. If a guy didn't have those manners hard wired already I wouldn't even waste my time. However when it comes to things like carrying her purse around or walking her dog then that's a little pushy and she shouldn't be allowed to treat you like that.

yes she does actually tell me to grab her purse and bring it inside or w.e. The thing is I would probably already do those things but she just tells me to do them. So I don't even get a chance to really do'em on my own.

and to the gentlemen who said to keep a strong frame and just say "no". Will this be enough? I can't see this as a fullproof thing. Knowing her she would just get mad and call me a jerk or something

Next time she does it pull her aside and calmly tell her she's being a brat and that she needs to stop or you'll stop paying attention to her

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Next time she does it pull her aside and calmly tell her she's being a brat and that she needs to stop or you'll stop paying attention to her, then go open up a big set and DHV like hell.

First off, you have already set a bad precident by following her demands thus far. You will find she will not deal with you being 100% "NO" very well so maybe pick a few of the more outrageous things to stop (i.e carrying her purse).

I think I can safely assume you are not fucking her, so why would you do all of this for her? If you think about it, at this point she will lose more if you are gone than you will lose. Maybe the only option will be to next her and hopefully learn from this experience.

Peace...

I didnt see where it says you have F-closed, so my mistake. But if you are serving her every wish then you are not much more than a doormat. Is that the way you envisioned your life?

Outrageous from my/many others perspective: "yes she does actually tell me to grab her purse and bring it inside or w.e.", "I just gotta be assertive as hell. And not let her boss me around." Those things I find to be outrageous, but hey, that is me!

My post was to say if you stop everything all at once she will not stick around (IMO), but if you phase it out over time she will be reconditioned to be ok with it.

Nexting her would be the easiest approach...

Peace...

Author:	Verite [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:24 pm ]
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Alright so basically. She always asks me to do simple yet stupid things for her. Like opening doors or walking her to her car. At first i'd neg a bit saying somethin like "Whoa! Your pretty demanding eh?" Or somethin like "Oh, are your hands broken or somethin?" Now I just "duhh, obviously". I'm not sure how to stop this demandin trend. I'm open to your suggestions guys. Tryin to keep my man card guys! On a side note on flakes. This is a silly question I acknowledge that. However, i'd like to ask you guys simply for peace of mind. When a chick flakes on yah and then eventually asks you to hang out again. Do yah play a little hard to get. Or jump on the horse pretty fast? I ask because this is starting to become a trend with a girl. And I feel since i'm not letting her work for me. She knows that she can just flake whenever and it'll be ok.

Author:	Molly [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:45 pm ]
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She's trying to train you. But honestly, those simple things like walking her to her car and opening the door are chivalric and mandatory for a lot of girls, and frankly you're lucky she's telling you and continuing to see you. If a guy didn't have those manners hard wired already I wouldn't even waste my time. However when it comes to things like carrying her purse around or walking her dog then that's a little pushy and she shouldn't be allowed to treat you like that.

Author:	lukeyx [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:11 pm ]
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Quote: She knows that she can just flake whenever and it'll be ok. Preselection solves this. From the time you meet her she must be wanting to meet you straight away, don't give her the upper hand. If she flakes then meet another girl, show to her that you have other HB's lined up if she's not meeting you, don't brag about it though. What Molly says is correct, to a certain extent. Most of the time i automatically have my manners, but when a girl asks me to constantly use my manners for her before i even get a chance to use them, i give them a simple 'no'. It's like getting drinks in, i only buy drinks if i offer to buy some, but if they ask they will get a no. As long as you keep a strong frame you'll be fine, but make sure u dont let her treat you like her bitch.

Author:	Verite [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:26 pm ]
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Quote: She's trying to train you. But honestly, those simple things like walking her to her car and opening the door are chivalric and mandatory for a lot of girls, and frankly you're lucky she's telling you and continuing to see you. If a guy didn't have those manners hard wired already I wouldn't even waste my time. However when it comes to things like carrying her purse around or walking her dog then that's a little pushy and she shouldn't be allowed to treat you like that. yes she does actually tell me to grab her purse and bring it inside or w.e. The thing is I would probably already do those things but she just tells me to do them. So I don't even get a chance to really do'em on my own. and to the gentlemen who said to keep a strong frame and just say "no". Will this be enough? I can't see this as a fullproof thing. Knowing her she would just get mad and call me a jerk or something

Author:	Molly [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:31 pm ]
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Quote: yes she does actually tell me to grab her purse and bring it inside or w.e. The thing is I would probably already do those things but she just tells me to do them. So I don't even get a chance to really do'em on my own. Next time she does it pull her aside and calmly tell her she's being a brat and that she needs to stop or you'll stop paying attention to her, then go open up a big set and DHV like hell.

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Author:	lukeyx [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:37 pm ]
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Quote: and to the gentlemen who said to keep a strong frame and just say "no". Will this be enough? I can't see this as a fullproof thing. Knowing her she would just get mad and call me a jerk or something It doesnt matter what she calls you after. If she's interested in the first place then she'll stick around. Make sure u control the frame and do not react to whatever she has to say after. Quote: Next time she does it pull her aside and calmly tell her she's being a brat and that she needs to stop or you'll stop paying attention to her Don't do this, your putting to much effort into it and asking for a reply from her. She could easily say 'I don't want attention from you anyway' or some bullshit.

Author:	Verite [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:56 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: yes she does actually tell me to grab her purse and bring it inside or w.e. The thing is I would probably already do those things but she just tells me to do them. So I don't even get a chance to really do'em on my own. Next time she does it pull her aside and calmly tell her she's being a brat and that she needs to stop or you'll stop paying attention to her, then go open up a big set and DHV like hell. I can't do that if were alone at my house for instance lol. Alright i think i get it now. I just gotta be assertive as hell. And not let her boss me around.

Author:	baracuda [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:15 am ]
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No is probably the best word you can ever say to a woman

Author:	Don Horneone [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:19 am ]
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You could say "the thing is, I'm like a genie, you can only get so many wishes so I'd choose your next one carefully if I were you"

Author:	Crypto [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:25 pm ]
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First off, you have already set a bad precident by following her demands thus far. You will find she will not deal with you being 100% "NO" very well so maybe pick a few of the more outrageous things to stop (i.e carrying her purse). I think I can safely assume you are not fucking her, so why would you do all of this for her? If you think about it, at this point she will lose more if you are gone than you will lose. Maybe the only option will be to next her and hopefully learn from this experience. Peace...

Author:	Verite [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:44 pm ]
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Quote: First off, you have already set a bad precident by following her demands thus far. You will find she will not deal with you being 100% "NO" very well so maybe pick a few of the more outrageous things to stop (i.e carrying her purse). I think I can safely assume you are not fucking her, so why would you do all of this for her? If you think about it, at this point she will lose more if you are gone than you will lose. Maybe the only option will be to next her and hopefully learn from this experience. Peace... Ummm.. I actually already have F closed her. What outrageous things? I mean things are good. Don't see why "nexting" her is the only solution for this problem.

Author:	Crypto [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:46 pm ]
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I didnt see where it says you have F-closed, so my mistake. But if you are serving her every wish then you are not much more than a doormat. Is that the way you envisioned your life? Outrageous from my/many others perspective: "yes she does actually tell me to grab her purse and bring it inside or w.e.", "I just gotta be assertive as hell. And not let her boss me around." Those things I find to be outrageous, but hey, that is me! My post was to say if you stop everything all at once she will not stick around (IMO), but if you phase it out over time she will be reconditioned to be ok with it. Nexting her would be the easiest approach... Peace...

Author:	Verite [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:02 pm ]
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Quote: I didnt see where it says you have F-closed, so my mistake. But if you are serving her every wish then you are not much more than a doormat. Is that the way you envisioned your life? Outrageous from my/many others perspective: "yes she does actually tell me to grab her purse and bring it inside or w.e.", "I just gotta be assertive as hell. And not let her boss me around." Those things I find to be outrageous, but hey, that is me! My post was to say if you stop everything all at once she will not stick around (IMO), but if you phase it out over time she will be reconditioned to be ok with it. Nexting her would be the easiest approach... Peace... Hell no! This is not how I envisioned my life. wait i'm confused.. are you recommending to be outrageous or not.. and what you say makes sense.. she won't be pleased with a sudden change. but if it happens periodically.. that's another story. but how am i suppose to make small changes regarding this? I mean, i only have two options as I see it. Complying or rebelling.

Author:	Crypto [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:35 pm ]
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I am saying that doing these things for her is like you are her servant is "Outrageous"! It is one thing to do stuff for her (i.e. Hold the door open somethimes) but for her to boss you around would be unacceptable if I were you. As I see it, you have three choices: You can choose to do nothing and keep things the way they are (not the best option) You can choose to comply with some and not with others (gonna be drama/stressful) You can choose to NEXT her (best course of action) She is not that special, the thing between her legs is not the only one! Peace...

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Author:	chilipama [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:43 am ]
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Seems like your an independent kind of person that is very friendly, helpful, don't ask girls many questions... I guess you like to please girls by doing what they ask you to, but guess what, when you make things too easy for them they move on, they go look for someone else because things become very boring, you become like a puppy for her, you do what she ask you to...there are no more challenges for her as she shaped you the way she wanted! Try becoming the boss, don't say no to her, but try to become more demanding, even simple things that you can do yourself, ask her to do them for you, you will either get control of the situation or she will realize how annoying it is to ask someone to do things for her all the time!