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Author:  Beast 45 [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:03 pm ]
Post subject:  A foot in the door.
Last night I was making out with this incredible girl. Just incredible, 8 or 9 easy which is great since I'm generously only a 7. I can tell she likes me too since we've been circling each other for about two weeks. I struck out with her at first but I just my failproof reset plan: Absolutely no contact for an entire week. She was so happy to see me again last night that pulling her was child's play. Anyway, I'll very likely see her again on Monday but I'm a little unsure as to how I should play this. I want to see her again and (obviously) I want sex. It's very hard to determine how much effort it will take for sex but I'm sure enough that she is no slut. I have a bit of a plan already formed but I would like to hear your opinions.

How should I handle this? and please do reply, I'll be happy with any advice!
Author:  HeavyRota8tion [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:53 pm ]
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Scant information you've provided makes it hard to give advice. You're already likely seeing her Monday, not sure what the q is.
Author:  Beast 45 [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:08 pm ]
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Ok heavy, what kind of information do you need? I'm not sure what you're looking for. The question is should I be really direct as to what I want or should I just not make a big deal about us making out? When should I bring up sex.
Author:  HeavyRota8tion [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:09 pm ]
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Ok heavy, what kind of information do you need? I'm not sure what you're looking for.
Paint a context for how you know the girl, how the two of you interact etc..
Author:  Beast 45 [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:20 pm ]
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Oh sorry man, I edited my last comment so you might want to take a look at that. As for context, we know each other through friends, her friends fucking love me as well. I see her on most of the nights out in college as well as house parties, up to now we just flirted and joked and I was really fucking surprised when it escalated last night. Not that I didn't believe in myself but as I said she is very attractive.

We interact quite well. Just joking and laughing and all that, we spent a while last night just talking about sex and corny chat up lines. Nothing I said was funny but she laughed anyway.
Author:  HeavyRota8tion [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:27 pm ]
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Oh sorry man, I edited my last comment so you might want to take a look at that. As for context, we know each other through friends, her friends fucking love me as well. I see her on most of the nights out in college as well as house parties, up to now we just flirted and joked and I was really fucking surprised when it escalated last night. Not that I didn't believe in myself but as I said she is very attractive.

We interact quite well. Just joking and laughing and all that, we spent a while last night just talking about sex and corny chat up lines. Nothing I said was funny but she laughed anyway.
Do you speak on phone or only when you happen to be in same setting
Author:  Beast 45 [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:36 pm ]
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Do you speak on phone or only when you happen to be in same setting
I only got her number last night, also I hate texting. I'm really awkward over the phone so I figure I'm safer just waiting until I see her. I might drop her a text telling her to come out but other than that no.
Author:  HeavyRota8tion [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:41 pm ]
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Do you speak on phone or only when you happen to be in same setting
I only got her number last night, also I hate texting. I'm really awkward over the phone so I figure I'm safer just waiting until I see her. I might drop her a text telling her to come out but other than that no.
Call her. In mean time by not doing so you aren't building any attraction, nor familiarity. Each time you meet, whenever that may be, you've got to expend energy re-establishing rapport; it feels clunky, unnatural. Call her, its the more tension-filled but personal way - texting is lame and shows you're playing it safe. Make her laugh, jock her a bit, set the tone so when you two meet up it carries over and you can escalate fast. I wouldn't ask her out with the first phone call, but next time you speak definitely do so as that's the objective here - to 'divide' (isolate) and conquer.
Author:  Beast 45 [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:52 pm ]
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Hmmm that's a bit cringy. I appreciate the advice but won't calling her make me look needy? Sure we get on well but we only kissed on one night, I'm not her boyfriend. Although I suppose I would like that. So far we haven't had any problems re-establishing rapport (infact I was making out with her within a minute of meeting last night!)
Author:  HeavyRota8tion [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:54 pm ]
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Hmmm that's a bit cringy. I appreciate the advice but won't calling her make me look needy? Sure we get on well but we only kissed on one night, I'm not her boyfriend. Although I suppose I would like that. So far we haven't had any problems re-establishing rapport (infact I was making out with her within a minute of meeting last night!)
Only needy if you make it out to be as such. she gave u her number for a reason, use it. If anything it shows confidence too many guys chicken out w stuff like that. its only needy if its coming from a needy place,.
Author:  Beast 45 [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:36 pm ]
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Ok then, if I call what should I say? Remember that I never call girls, If I just say "ummm, how was your day?" then that can only send me backwards.

Another question, how many meetings will it take before I should or can bring up sex? There's about a 50/50 chance that she is a virgin, (I've just started college, so a lot of people are).
Author:  HeavyRota8tion [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:23 am ]
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Ok then, if I call what should I say? Remember that I never call girls, If I just say "ummm, how was your day?" then that can only send me backwards.

Another question, how many meetings will it take before I should or can bring up sex? There's about a 50/50 chance that she is a virgin, (I've just started college, so a lot of people are).
Reconnect on something you experienced together "was just thinking about blah blah blah and had to laugh..."
Author:  Beast 45 [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:54 am ]
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Reconnecting is not the problem though! Thanks though, read the rest of the post.
Author:  v00owen [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:41 am ]
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Ok heavy, what kind of information do you need? I'm not sure what you're looking for. The question is should I be really direct as to what I want or should I just not make a big deal about us making out? When should I bring up sex.
No you shouldn't, based on how you won her over you shouldn't be putting in more investment than her. You bringing up things like sex and what "we" are shows you're more invested into the relationship between you two than her, giving her all the power.

The one who cares the least has the most power is a good way of putting it.

So my answer to you is don't. When you two are alone just escalate until you hit resistance (LMR), then take 2 steps back and 1 step forward and try again. Persistence is not needy. It just shows her you know what you want.
If that doesn't work there is plenty of canned lmr destroyers around the forums that you can use for ideas :)
Author:  Beast 45 [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:59 pm ]
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Well I called her, and we're meeting TONIGHT. To be honest I'm nervous as hell, this is our first meeting since the making out and I'm still unclear how I can continue things at the same level.
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