PUA Forum :: Difference between resistence and rejection?

pay attention to what the girl says and does dude, are you just like oblivious to social feedback or something?

1)she says she has a boyfriend/other guy

^ok so this is her justification so that she is not responsible for what you are doing, that's all fine and dandy, and it could mean nothing, and it could mean disinterest

so what's the second step to affirm where you can take this? test compliance

2) she is non compliant, so she won't even give you a low level of compliance, you try and try again, won't even give in for a kiss

^ ok so this is what she is doing, this tells you more then what she says, but what she says helps your frame what she is doing, if what she says isn't lining up with what she is doing, you trust her actions, this is how you tell resistance apart from a time waster, compliance with verbal disinterest = resistance, non-compliance with verbal indications of interest = dis-interest, or not comfortable enough, verbal disinterest with non-compliance = disinterest/unavailable sexually

this girl has totally been non compliant, and even justified why, she is sexually unavailable to you, move on to a different girl, stop wasting your time

Author:	TheSavant [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:11 am ]
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I have recently developed a mentality of being persistent, but now resistence and rejection are the two things that confuse me. If a girl enjoys spending time with you and is willing to hang out with you, but everytime u try to put a move on her, e.g. kiss her, hold her hand, she verbally refuses your advance or backs away. I've tried it multiple times, at least 10 times by now, for the past 3 weeks, sometimes I'd steal a few kiss by tricking her, but for the most part she refuses my advance. She has stated that there is this guy that she is seeing so she doesn't feel comfortable kissing another guy. But at the same time, knowing that I am attracted to her, she likes to hang out with me and dances seductively close to me and grinds on me on the dance floor. Lastly, she has stated that "we are just friends". Is she giving me super resistence or rejection? Should I keep trying or just next her or just categorize her as a friend as well?

Author:	tripsteady [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:57 am ]
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be honest , tell her what you want from her ( and face it , if you already tried to kiss her then she already knows) and ask her what she is hoping for.. if she says friends then walk away.That will a) stop you wasting time on something that is possibly more then a friend b) if she does see you as something more then a friend well , then the very fact that you displayed an alpha male trait(willingness to walk away) and you did walk away , makes you more attractive ( cat string theory) at least..this is what I would do.

Author:	pleasureseeker [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:10 am ]
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calibration.... when a women isn't complying you should IOD her.... try to give this girl time away, act disinterested when she doesn't comply with kino escalation... make her jealous, flirt in front of her, give her a couple weeks without you then ask her out and escalate. It sounds like you have a lot of comfort but you need to rev up attraction, doing these things should help.

Author:	Tr@veler [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:14 pm ]
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Seems like this girl just likes the attention you give her. She will probably continue to hang out with you but always keep you at bay as an orbiter. Best would be to move on because this chick will not give you anything.

Author:	pumpington [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:35 pm ]
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pay attention to what the girl says and does dude, are you just like oblivious to social feedback or something? 1)she says she has a boyfriend/other guy ^ok so this is her justification so that she is not responsible for what you are doing, that's all fine and dandy, and it could mean nothing, and it could mean disinterest so what's the second step to affirm where you can take this? test compliance 2) she is non compliant, so she won't even give you a low level of compliance, you try and try again, won't even give in for a kiss ^ ok so this is what she is doing, this tells you more then what she says, but what she says helps your frame what she is doing, if what she says isn't lining up with what she is doing, you trust her actions, this is how you tell resistance apart from a time waster, compliance with verbal disinterest = resistance, non-compliance with verbal indications of interest = dis-interest, or not comfortable enough, verbal disinterest with non-compliance = disinterest/unavailable sexually this girl has totally been non compliant, and even justified why, she is sexually unavailable to you, move on to a different girl, stop wasting your time

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Author:	TheSavant [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:12 pm ]
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Quote: be honest , tell her what you want from her ( and face it , if you already tried to kiss her then she already knows) and ask her what she is hoping for.. if she says friends then walk away.That will a) stop you wasting time on something that is possibly more then a friend b) if she does see you as something more then a friend well , then the very fact that you displayed an alpha male trait(willingness to walk away) and you did walk away , makes you more attractive ( cat string theory) at least..this is what I would do. Thanks for the advice, bro. In the beginning, she had said "we were moving too fast" and also at one point she said "if you are willing to give her some time and then MAYBE we can be something more" but since she already had a guy she's seeing, I told her I didn't want to be anyone elses backup and would rather just stay friends. At the same time, I continued to escalate. Perhaps what I said was my mistake, but being like a backup sounds really AFC.

Author:	TheSavant [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:14 pm ]
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Quote: pay attention to what the girl says and does dude, are you just like oblivious to social feedback or something? 1)she says she has a boyfriend/other guy ^ok so this is her justification so that she is not responsible for what you are doing, that's all fine and dandy, and it could mean nothing, and it could mean disinterest so what's the second step to affirm where you can take this? test compliance 2) she is non compliant, so she won't even give you a low level of compliance, you try and try again, won't even give in for a kiss ^ ok so this is what she is doing, this tells you more then what she says, but what she says helps your frame what she is doing, if what she says isn't lining up with what she is doing, you trust her actions, this is how you tell resistance apart from a time waster, compliance with verbal disinterest = resistance, non-compliance with verbal indications of interest = dis-interest, or not comfortable enough, verbal disinterest with non-compliance = disinterest/unavailable sexually this girl has totally been non compliant, and even justified why, she is sexually unavailable to you, move on to a different girl, stop wasting your time That is an excellent explanation on resistance. I will definitly keep this in mind. Thank you for this analysis!

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