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Author:  lesarge [ Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  utter failure past the number stage

Ive been doing this pua thing for about two months now. been going pretty balls to the wall, and using a mix of mystery and style, canned and inner game (just whatever feels right at the time) ive gotten 15 numbers off girls so far.

half of those numbers are flakes.

1 resulted in me having a new friend (nothing more)
1 resulted in a full close but dont want to see her again after that shes a weirdo.

All the rest have amounted to nothing!!!!! this is very fucking worrying to say the least. the statistics point to me needing what, another 50 numbers before i find a girl i want to date exclusively. all the while my collecting numbers is giving me a constantly deteriorating reputation with my female friends- i couldnt give a damn really but if i followed the "just let it happen dont try" advice i get so often i might be in a relationship some time next decade.

Now im no afc, ive read the books and dhv in person and in text, i show disinterest (sometimes a little too much), i bust the girls balls in a funny way, show moxie in my attitude and try to always angle conversation towards getting the girl to come out. ive read the text guide on the forum and follow it closely and constantly keep things light and brief.
Right now I have one number that is possibly live- i collected it from a girl in a restaurant who was giving me ioi's. although i text her a few hours ago and havent heard anything. so i think number 15 is dead as well as the others.

Are these kind of numbers in line with what you guys are seeing? or have i got an abnormally high attrition rate! i know my game is at least decent, everything progresses as it should and i reach hook point usually instantly with my sets. but when it gets down to the number stage everything goes fucking tits up. help me. please.[/b][/i]

Author:  Melodical [ Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:44 pm ]
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Maybe you're getting the number too soon in the interaction before enough attraction has been created?

Author:  lesarge [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:07 am ]
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Bump

Author:  lesarge [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:47 pm ]
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I think maybe a lack of comfort and investment is my problem. ive been reading around the forum more and seeing some good advice i.e sasha daygame - "know 5 awesome things about a gurl before you leave"

and get the number on the agreement that we will meet up -which i almost always do to be fair.
Reading mystery method again last night a line saying pretty much the same "most numbers flake because there isnt sufficient comfort and attraction" hit it home a little bit more.

It seems to me a thin line to walk between texting TOO MUCH - falling into friend zone or non sexual too much comfort zone, and texting NOT ENOUGH - lack of both meaning a flake.

Its starting to hit me thatthe womeb im meeting are pretty much cowards though. theyll tell you whatever you want to your face then over the phone you see the true face of them

Im still a rookie at all this though. so hopefully the next 15 will give me alot more luck. thanks for the feedback peoples

Author:  0uch [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:01 pm ]
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With enough practice, you will instantly know when the number is flake or real.

Flaky number usually means your not spending enough time in the set. When you go out, change your mentality to getting one number a night running a solid set instead of running 5 sets and getting 5 numbers. The one set will take couple hours, and it can result in a pull.

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