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She admitted to having cheated on her past serious relationship, for a few months.

Why are you doing PUA if you want to lock yourself into a LTR? You seem like another AFC looking for a magic pill. A girl's not your property, but if you want to tie a girl down, expect yourself to be tied down too.

Would this be a good thing to do, or am I just over-thinking this and should just leave her alone if I am not sure about dating her? Thanks for helping out.

Thanks Snarg and 0uch for weighing in and the support.

Snarg, couldn't agree more about the positive "side-effects" of PU techniques, especially inner-game.

lukeyx, that's exactly the thing that's I noticed: this had apparently been going on for several months.

Ok, so now I know I am better off moving on.

But hearing her overall life story, you cannot help but feel bad. I know I cannot provide a quick-fix with her life's problems, but she seems so very lost in her life. She is also very obsessed about her faith in God, almost to the point where people ignore her. Now add self esteem issues to that mix, along with knock-out good looks, and the fact that she is into me. The things that I do like in her is that she's very attractive, very nice to talk to/good social skills and she really opens up to me, and tries to be honest IMO, most of the time.

I feel, that, "hit it and quit it" would cause her more emotional damage and pain. I am thinking of just keeping her as a friend, and when I get time, meeting up every now and then to provide some positive support.

Would this be a good thing to do, or am I just over-thinking this and should just leave her alone if I am not sure about dating her? Thanks for helping out.

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What the hell? How is AFC for him to want a LTR? If you find a girl you like, and want to date her, do it.

I would say is a red flag she cheated on her previous relationship. But there could be lots of reason for it. Thing is, girls mature as they get older.

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I don't understand the point of this post. Pickup techniques are exceptionally useful for meeting a large amount of women, at which point you can screen them for LTR material. Many of the techniques, particularly those dealing with inner-game, are also applied during the LTR itself. I don't see where he seems like an AFC looking for a magic pill, nor where he said a girl is "his property". And yes, LTR implies that both people are "tied down" unless it's an open relationship.

For all who fears cheating my advice is simple - grow a pair of balls and stop thinking about cheating.

Author:	Mike1 [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:51 pm ]
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"once a cheater, always a cheater" -how far do you guys find this to be true? I went out with this HB9 ... we got into discussing a lot of topics. She admitted to having cheated on her past serious relationship, for a few months. I am looking for an LTR in the long-run, so I think that someone who has cheated before is a red flag. So, Next this one, or invest more time and see her for one more time? What do you guys think?

Author:	Snarg [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:01 pm ]
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I'm an enormous believer in "once a cheater, always a cheater". Even if she won't actually cheat, she'll still do shit that you don't want her doing. I've never seen a single case of this being untrue. To me, it's not worth the energy and risk. I would next her. I feel very strongly about this type of thing, although others will disagree with me.

Author:	lukeyx [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:08 pm ]
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Quote: She admitted to having cheated on her past serious relationship, for a few months. definitely next

Author:	SOUL_FIGHTER [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:10 pm ]
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Why are you doing PUA if you want to lock yourself into a LTR? You seem like another AFC looking for a magic pill. A girl's not your property, but if you want to tie a girl down, expect yourself to be tied down too.

Author:	Mike1 [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:35 pm ]
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Snarg and lukeyx, thank you for the input. Yes it does suck to next his one because she's attractive. But know what you mean, it struck me right away whether to put in more time and energy into this girl. Appreciate the feedback. soul_fighter, the fact that I am looking for an LTR is a choice that I make. You seem like just another guy who jumps into conclusions. But you took the time to write, so thanks anyways.

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Author:	Snarg [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:14 am ]
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Quote: Why are you doing PUA if you want to lock yourself into a LTR? You seem like another AFC looking for a magic pill. A girl's not your property, but if you want to tie a girl down, expect yourself to be tied down too. I don't understand the point of this post. Pickup techniques are exceptionally useful for meeting a large amount of women, at which point you can screen them for LTR material. Many of the techniques, particularly those dealing with inner-game, are also applied during the LTR itself. I don't see where he seems like an AFC looking for a magic pill, nor where he said a girl is "his property". And yes, LTR implies that both people are "tied down" unless it's an open relationship.

Author:	0uch [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:19 am ]
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Quote: Why are you doing PUA if you want to lock yourself into a LTR? You seem like another AFC looking for a magic pill. A girl's not your property, but if you want to tie a girl down, expect yourself to be tied down too. What the hell? How is AFC for him to want a LTR? If you find a girl you like, and want to date her, do it. I would say is a red flag she cheated on her previous relationship. But there could be lots of reason for it. Thing is, girls mature as they get older.

Author:	Mike1 [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:31 am ]
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Thanks Snarg and 0uch for weighing in and the support. Snarg, couldn't agree more about the positive "side-effects" of PU techniques, especially inner-game. lukeyx, that's exactly the thing that's I noticed: this had apparently been going on for several months. Ok, so now I know I am better off moving on. But hearing her overall life story, you cannot help but feel bad. I know I cannot provide a quick-fix with her life's problems, but she seems so very lost in her life. She is also very obsessed about her faith in God, almost to the point where people ignore her. Now add self esteem issues to that mix, along with knock-out good looks, and the fact that she is into me. The things that I do like in her is that she's very attractive, very nice to talk to/good social skills and she really opens up to me, and tries to be honest IMO, most of the time. I feel, that, "hit it and quit it" would cause her more emotional damage and pain. I am thinking of just keeping her as a friend, and when I get time, meeting up every now and then to provide some positive support. Would this be a good thing to do, or am I just over-thinking this and should just leave her alone if I am not sure about dating her? Thanks for helping out.

Author:	pumpington [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:32 am ]
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yep, red flag, history tends to repeat it's self, behavior especially when it comes in the form of a pattern, tends to continue in a pattern

Author:	jurupa [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:25 am ]
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Quote: Would this be a good thing to do, or am I just over-thinking this and should just leave her alone if I am not sure about dating her? Thanks for helping out. Best to keep her as a friend really. Dating her will run the risk of her cheating, especially if she cheated before for a few months.

Author:	Snarg [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:44 pm ]
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Quote: Thanks Snarg and 0uch for weighing in and the support. Snarg, couldn't agree more about the positive "side-effects" of PU techniques, especially inner-game. lukeyx, that's exactly the thing that's I noticed: this had apparently been going on for several months. Ok, so now I know I am better off moving on. But hearing her overall life story, you cannot help but feel bad. I know I cannot provide a quick-fix with her life's problems, but she seems so very lost in her life. She is also very obsessed about her faith in God, almost to the point where people ignore her. Now add self esteem issues to that mix, along with knock-out good looks, and the fact that she is into me. The things that I do like in her is that she's very attractive, very nice to talk to/good social skills and she really opens up to me, and tries to be honest IMO, most of the time. I feel, that, "hit it and quit it" would cause her more emotional damage and pain. I am thinking of just keeping her as a friend, and when I get time, meeting up every now and then to provide some positive support. Would this be a good thing to do, or am I just over-thinking this and should just leave her alone if I am not sure about dating her? Thanks for helping out. I fall for it when girls play the victim card every single tiime. But that's all it is - a piece in the game they play. Everyone has their own set of problems, some worse than others. But at the end of the day, I can't think of a single girl I've met where she was simply dealt a shitty hand and none of it was her fault at all. Negative people will suck you in and make you feel miserable and accountable for their problems. It's a headache you don't need, I promise. At the most, be her friend. But I would run like hell.

Author:	SOUL_FIGHTER [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:04 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Why are you doing PUA if you want to lock yourself into a LTR? You seem like another AFC looking for a magic pill. A girl's not your property, but if you want to tie a girl down, expect yourself to be tied down too. What the hell? How is AFC for him to want a LTR? If you find a girl you like, and want to date her, do it. I would say is a red flag she cheated on her previous relationship. But there could be lots of reason for it. Thing is, girls mature as they get older. Quote: Quote: Why are you doing PUA if you want to lock yourself into a LTR? You seem like another AFC looking for a magic pill. A girl's not your property, but if you want to tie a girl down, expect yourself to be tied down too. I don't understand the point of this post. Pickup techniques are exceptionally useful for meeting a large amount of women, at which point you can screen them for LTR material. Many of the techniques, particularly those dealing with inner-game, are also applied during the LTR itself. I don't see where he seems like an AFC looking for a magic pill, nor where he said a girl is "his property". And yes, LTR implies that both people are "tied down" unless it's an open relationship. PUA Techniques aren't designed for monogamy. Clearly, you won't game when you're with her. So you won't progress. It's game over. Most things in life are temporary, so once you break up, it's repeat all over again and you'll probably ask this question again. Clearly, you'd like to hear what you want to hear. What is it? 1. Date her, and if she cheats on you, it's totally her bad. 2. Don't date her, because she'll cheat on you, and it's her problem. 3. Date her, and if she cheats on you, it's your problem. If you bring value, she won't cheat on you. But if you're leeching value, she will. LTR is the girl's game, don't buy into that shit.

Author:	SimplyNotAwesome [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:32 pm ]
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SOUL_FIGHTER, you seem depressed. Relax and stop banging bitches only. Every women wants to be fucked by an alpha male and every one will stick to the most successful one and cheating is out of the question once your value is high. It's a wrong thinking that women operate like a clock. Once you lose a gear, she cheats, you put it wrong - cheats. Women are emotional beings and so we, men, are too, there are feelings inside the relationship and if you are not a man, but a pussy, of course - she will cheat and that's just natural response. For all who fears cheating my advice is simple - grow a pair of balls and stop thinking about cheating.

Author:	Snarg [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:15 pm ]
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Quote: For all who fears cheating my advice is simple - grow a pair of balls and stop thinking about cheating. That's a lot easier said than done, though, don't you agree?

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Author:	MrBreeze [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:20 pm ]
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Im personal mantra "once a woman, always a cheater" I dont think its some locked in mechanism that just because someone cheated once they are destine to cheat on you. But the idea is there and she is a woman... ie, if you act weak and something stronger comes along...