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Author:  Wall1e [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Friend cockblocked and pulled the robbery!!!
Hey PUA's,

First of all i met this girl when i went for a day-game session on my own. This was 3 months ago. I had 0 success until the busstop heading home. 2 girls had to take the same bus, i talked to them and got their facebook. They knew a friend of mine.

So me and my friend went to one of their homes. We were with 2 and they were with 4 girls. We didn't really do anything since the girls wouldn't let each other alone.

There was 1 HB9 at least, and the rest only HB6 or less. I tried to win over the HB9, but dind't have success. So i froze her off for like 2 months.

Now 3 weeks ago that same friend had a birhtday party, in which the same girls game over, except the HB9. In that way, they kinda gotten involved in our group. Then at a carnival, the HB9 was there too. And my friends were literally over her. Especially one. So he was like all the time walking with her, with 0 chance for me to get alone with her. When i said him that he was cockblocking me, he got angry and said that i was doing that to him. F*ck off man, it's my girl, i'm the one who met her first.

So now he's actually dating her, and didn't even thank me. He robbed her from me, and is like; hey, i'm the one who's having success with her, even though you are the one who talked first to her.

WHAT THE HELL? IS IT NORMAL FRIENDS DO THIS?

My questions:
- Did i wait too long into asking being alone with her?
- Should i have dated her only, instead of being with her friends? (she's kinda shy)
- Should i prevent getting the girls involved in my friend group in the future to prevent these situations?
Author:  Techgame [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:11 pm ]
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Who cares what you did wrong. Go out and find another one.

Women make up 51% of the population, there are plenty more HB9s out there friend.
Author:  Pokee [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:46 pm ]
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Obviously, he escalated the interaction and you didn't. That's why he's now fucking her and you're not. Learn from this experience and try to do better on the next one. If you see the girl you want, you must approach with intention of fucking her and escalate.
You don't get to stake a claim on a girl just because you saw her first. You don't even get to own her even if you fuck her. You didn't approach, he did. End of story.
Good luck!
Author:  Wall1e [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:51 pm ]
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You i figured that mistake, i didn't escalate too early. And it's just sometimes in my mind scripted that i somehow 'claim'girls.

And i tried to move on. Went to the mall today to find other girls. Guess what? 30 degrees WITH sun and like 0 hot girls out there. Strange :?

I just won't take girls anymore to my friends, since these situations then won't occur anymore, or the chance is getting less.
Author:  S0lar [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:57 pm ]
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I'm not a 100% sure I fully understood the whole post here;

So you froze out the HB9 and then dated with her friends, and then when she appears in your peers again, she gets more attention from your friend, who she is now dating? Also, it was this friend's birthday party?

Well, friends shouldn't cockblock, but as he did, you could have still tried to game her. He didn't respect your intention, so the competition is on. You could have interrupted his attempt on escalation and building rapport by moving in while they were walking. How you should have done that, depends on the HB9's nature. Know your target, act accordingly. If she's shy (as you said) don't be too aggressive, but be straightforward and honest, definitely honest. Shy often means she's a little bit self-conscious about herself (or being a HB9 as you said, she might be playing it out) so being gentle and determined can be the right way to go.

If the two were walking away from the party, and your friend was the host, you could have used plenty of distraction for you to buy time alone with the girl. Approach the two, do some small-talk to appear neutral and friendly, then tell your friend that you heard someone was looking for him at the party. Even though no one wasn't, you misheard it then, but you might have bought yourself the time needed to play your game.
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My questions:
- Did i wait too long into asking being alone with her?
Being a blacksmith in learning (for the past two years now), we have saying that goes: "Forge while the iron is still hot!" (rough translation). Though you didn't actually describe how long you waited to escalate, or what did you try on her that you didn't win her over - You could've changed tactics. Freeze out doesn't always work, perhaps in her case it was the wrong move and/or an unnecessary move. So I can't give a direct answer to that, other than "Forge while the iron is still hot!" Spot the opportunities. Carpe diem.

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- Should i have dated her only, instead of being with her friends? (she's kinda shy)


She's shy, so as I stated, she is either a little bit (or more) self-conscious about herself or playing it out. Since it seems that dating/being with her friends didn't awaken a spark of competition in her, you should have noticed that and acted on it. Focus on the target, observe. That's why you go out with her friends in the first place - To see how she reacts. Give her all your attention, know what she likes and what she doesn't, how she reacts to the jokes her friends make, to the guy trying to hit her, to god damn everything, and then be the exception. So yes, in this case, you should have.
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- Should i prevent getting the girls involved in my friend group in the future to prevent these situations?
That's up to you. My advice would be to pick your friends more closely, be critical on who you trust and make your intentions known. Having friends means you have a social life, means your normal. You can use stable peers to your advantage when it comes to winning someone over. And women, oh women are social creatures who enjoy social interactions, and your friends are a part of your life, a life your future partner is hopefully interested in at some level.

I hope that my post was helpful and devoid of huge misunderstanding. :)

P.s Move on.
Author:  Pokee [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:58 pm ]
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I was going to say something about solo sarging but figured you would understand that already.
When you do hook up though, introduce your friends after you've fucked her. :lol:
Author:  MrBreeze [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:29 pm ]
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Growing up my group of friends had a very strong survival of the fittest rule. We never cock blocked however, thats just weak. But if I brought a group of girls around my friends and i had one in mind.... they usually did too. It made me work harder to attract the girl. Sometimes I won, many times I lost, but I got better!
Author:  juvx [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:34 pm ]
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Guy code 101.

All girls are fair game until you've kissed... then shes yours. Period. Only exceptions are girls that you're related to and permission should be asked by friends to date those.

I don't care if you've been talking to her for 2 months or 2 years. If you don't have the balls to Kiss close by then you don't deserve to. Doesn't matter who saw her first or who talked to her first or if you even went on a date with her... if you didn't escalate to at least a kiss its fair game. Sex of course is a LOCK.
Author:  Wall1e [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:14 pm ]
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I talked it out with my friend today and i said that i was a bit upset about BUT i also mentioned to him that it was childish behaviour of mine. No more hard feelings. However i shall always be a little jealous cause damn she had a nice tan, good body and hot ass.

As for the escalation: i indeed need to show my interest more. Pokee, love your posts, keep it up! Thx s0lar for the post.
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