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| Author: | The Asian Don [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | AMOGS use my young appearance against me. How to combat?! |
So I'm 21 years old(almost 22) but I still look like a 17 year old. some even say 16 but I think their idiots. I've met quite a few AMOGS and as soon as they find out my age they always use this against me to AMOG me and be dominant against me and out-alpha me...at first I deal with it fine and just laugh it off. I'm fine with someone being surprised or making a joke about it, I can laugh at myself, I'm not offended. but it's when they MILK the joke dry to the point where it's hard for me to force a smile because it's simply not funny anymore and has become irritating... How can I combat these AMOGS who use this feature of mine against me?! I wanna show these doofuses they cant mess with the asian don! ![]() Help a brotha out! |
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| Author: | artfulroger [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:30 pm ] |
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Call them out on it, embarrass them, say something along the lines of "you've used that joke over 2 times now, got anything else in your locker?" I'm assuming they're doing this in front of a HB? if it's just 3 of you get the girl to make fun of him too, or if you're in a group set, get the group to do it too, all in a playful manner of course "is he meant to be the funny guy of the group?" The key is in the movement as well, stand by HB, or in line with the rest of group, so you've isolated him in a big space and you've stolen his frame and turned it on him. Easier said than done, I can normally do this when it's a HB me and some dude. An example, I was with girl who I was leaving with and we walked past a food place to say bye to her friends, it was winter and fucking freezing I was wearing a military style trench coat thing, and this dude cut into our group, and tried to AMOG me, by saying "you look like a paedophile in that coat," I replied "Yeah 14 year olds are clearly my demographic, how do you know so much about dressing like a paedophile?" He then went onto get rejected by all of the group, then tried to game the girl I was leaving with so I just called him out "You're trying to pick up a girl in a chicken shop? Man that's weak." then I turned to the HB grabbed her hand and said "C'mon 'her name' let's go" and off we went. The funny thing was after that, he was shouting at his mates to come and fight me with him and they were just laughing at him. |
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| Author: | The Asian Don [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:08 pm ] |
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Good advice, cheers. Sometimes it's in front of a HB but most of the time not really. Just some insecure idiots who want to boost their ego by putting me down. It's not always about my age. This one asshole who USE TO be my friend always use to put me down about literally anything. When It got to the point where I got pissed off at him he always used the excuse that it's just "friendly banter." I now realise he was amogging me to help him with with his pathetic insecurities(he's a 3/10 and overweight) and to make me look bad in front of a girl he knew I liked. What a friend. I was too much of a nice guy and always avoid violence and losing my temper because I knew it would make me look bad in front of the girl. but I really should have smashed him in the face the ammount of times he crossed the line instead of letting him make me look like a pussy. Hilarious story about the guy in the chicken shop lol. So basically give them a witty, non hostile response. But surely if they cross the line you should put your foot down and be get rough with him, am I right? Or should you always avoid violence no matter what? |
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| Author: | AlvaroFernando [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:17 pm ] |
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You are 21 and you are getting bullied?? FFS. Man the fuck up. With regards to your question I have the same problem and I just reply that when Im 40 Im going to fuck young girls. Its not even an issue for me. ( However girls are the ones that tell me this). |
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| Author: | The Asian Don [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:33 pm ] |
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The story about my old friend bullying me was back in college, 3 years ago. Noone bullies me now, I wouldn't hesitate to stand up for myself. |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:28 am ] |
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You have anger management issues. You need to diffuse your anger. There's no point getting angry with your friends or social circle who tease you. When I was younger back in college in the housing compound, we have a pair of boxing gloves precisely to diffuse any bad blood between two house/compound mates. It's a civilized thing. The one who loses out in the match pays his respect and submits to the victor. We basically did kickboxing-- our legs didn't have any gloves on, and size didn't matter. I have a house mate who was also an AMOG who loved to joke around most especially around the ladies I like in college. He was about one and one fourth times bigger in size and heavier in weight, a Shorin Ryu black belt (at least that's what he said), one of the better guys in kick boxing, and was more senior than I am in the dorm compound. We settled our differences via the boxing gloves for 3 rounds while our room mates refereed the informal bout. He was expecting me to be a pussy without any martial arts skills and that I will play defensive. I surprised him instead with several attacks of rapid fire punches to his head and biceps (to weaken his punches), shin kicks to his ribs and hamstrings, and knees to his soft leg muscles to disable his powerful kicks. And before he could hit me, I neutralize him every time with a clinch. We became good friends afterwards while the other guys became friendlier with me. So what's the point of this post? Get a pair of boxing gloves and settle your differences in a civilized, friendly manner. If you're beta, train some more. If you prove yourself, all of these AMOGs will stop. No need for violence. Settle your differences peacefully. |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:44 am ] |
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you gotta realize that it is just congruent for some guys to talk shit, it is not that they are trying to cock block you, or amog you, or what ever it is you have built it up to be, it is just that guys way to socializing, busting peoples balls and alot of the times people act out through emotions, and if they are giving you shit, they are insecure about something or getting a bad vibe from you, one of the easiest things you can do is re-frame and lead in a positive direction, make friends instead of enemies when the guy has made it clear that he absolutely has no good intentions in reguards to interacting with you, the most important thing you can do, is just keep your cool, if he is getting to you, then you care, if you care, then you will react to him and play into his frame (you don't want to be aggressive, or worse, passive-aggressive, simply assertive and calm) if you want it to stop, then be proactive about it, there are a million ways you could get that done, but just accepting the behavior and doing or saying nothing will do nothing the discourage the behavior, and eventually it will continue and you will become more and more reactive to the behavior until you have a passive aggressive spaz attack (the kind of behavior you are showing in your post i.e ''I wish I had of hit him in the face back then instead of not.. blah blah blah'') simply ignoring and dissmissing people when they are trying to get your attention through negative means is an effective way to condition them to stop, but when I say ignoring I don't mean pay attention to him and say and do nothing and just let it slide, that is not ignoring him at all it is more like saying, ya... cool man, looking at him like he is not cool at all then talking to someone else like he doesn't exist, if he persists you can call him out or what ever you want (frame his behavior in a negative manner), just know what ever you do, reacting to him emotionally will only bring you to do things that are exactly what he wants (if he is trolling and you get mad = you are trolled), doesn't matter if you ''win'' and arguement, you will look retarded to who ever you are with for falling into his frame and having a pissing match of egos, argueing only makes you both look bad, ignore him, pay attention to others, don't allow him to effect you emotionally, don't seek out his company or attention until his behavior changes, and if he continues to actively seek your attention in a negative manner, just start framing his behavior negatively and baiting him into continueing to present that behavior so the group will dis-approve of him along with you, after a while he just looks like a retard, and if you are congruent, it effects you not in the slightest, no one from the group will care for the negative opinion of a socially retarded person but if you are reacting and find yourself in spaz mode, you can still dis-courage the behavior, but it will show a lack of social intelligence on your part, you can just break rapport on the person on a completely different level, and if they feel threatened either from the loss of approval from the group, or the fear of physical harm, this can motivate them to dis-continue the behavior, when there is an assosiation with negative emotions to the behavior, the behavior dis-continues (pretty much always unless the guy/girl has mental problems), this is why it is important for you to keep your emotions under control, if he/she can get you to react emotionally, then they can manipulate you the way they see fit by using your emotions agaisnt you to condition your behavior possibly getting into fights is not nessicarily the best way to handle it, but when you are out of options, you can either escalate till it comes to fight, or dissmiss it and be a bigger man, ignoring it so that the guy lowers his precieved social value can usually get a guy to stop if he is just doing it for attention (when he realizes he can't get attention that way), but when it is just a congruent habbit for the guy and he doesn't care about the approval of the group at all and is emotionally non-reactive, sometimes the only thing that will work as motivation to stop the behavior and get this guy reacting is feeling insecure about what he is doing, and if the guy knows he can beat you in a fight, chances are he won't back down in a pissing match, because the threat of physical harm will not make him feel insecure (he sees no threat), so if you are smaller and you are going to spaz, use the whole group agaisnt him instead of just yourself, that way at least he gets voted off the island so to speak us vs him, instead of me vs you the same thing comes to mind with mystery's classic neg, ''is she always like this?'' but in my opinion, it is always better to just ignore someone then to get into a fight, just let it go, not even worth it, obviously if he is being malicious/dis-respectful and persistant stand up for yourself, but you don't have to beat him down or anything or start attacking him (verbally or physically), just don't give him attention, and don't actively seek his company and even though it can come down to fight, bringing violence to the table, only ever brings more violence to the table |
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