PUA Forum :: What % of The Pickup is Mid-Game?

I think that throughout the whole process of becoming better with girls and with people in general, it always starts out with trying to make someone like you. I did this, and still do, though not as much, and you "adapt" to the person to make them like you.

But as I'm slowly progressing, I'm realizing that it isn't about making a girl like you, but being a rock solid grounded YOU, without apologies, standing for what you believe, being honest in your intent, and being the best man you can for yourself. And when you stop worrying about making someone like you, people will naturally like you and respect you more for being grounded in your reality.

The people who are best at this don't care what others think of them, they have a good time whatever happens. If she likes you, great, if not, sucks for her, because it would have been an awesome trip for her.

Author:	midlife_crysus [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:	What % of The Pickup is Mid-Game?
To me it's at least 80%. Any dolt can approach and get a conversation going, but mid-game is not really a process, but a personality trait. To me the hardest part of PUA is making a woman like you,not just for your looks or anything else, but for her to like hanging with you. Thats not something you can learn, you can try some basic rapport things, but if she's not feeling how you talk, or laugh, or find you interesting, shes prolly not going to the next step. I dont think enough is said about this on PUA forums. The real key is getting the girl to like you, once she likes you, if she's attracted, shell fuck u. So where is the material on being an interesting person? Maybe we should invite the dos equis beer guy here to help out.

Author:	Tr@veler [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:39 pm ]
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I think that throughout the whole process of becoming better with girls and with people in general, it always starts out with trying to make someone like you. I did this, and still do, though not as much, and you "adapt" to the person to make them like you. But as I'm slowly progressing, I'm realizing that it isn't about making a girl like you, but being a rock solid grounded YOU, without apologies, standing for what you believe, being honest in your intent, and being the best man you can for yourself. And when you stop worrying about making someone like you, people will naturally like you and respect you more for being grounded in your reality. The people who are best at this don't care what others think of them, they have a good time whatever happens. If she likes you, great, if not, sucks for her, because it would have been an awesome trip for her.

Author:	midlife_crysus [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:46 pm ]
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Quote: I think that throughout the whole process of becoming better with girls and with people in general, it always starts out with trying to make someone like you. I did this, and still do, though not as much, and you "adapt" to the person to make them like you. But as I'm slowly progressing, I'm realizing that it isn't about making a girl like you, but being a rock solid grounded YOU, without apologies, standing for what you believe, being honest in your intent, and being the best man you can for yourself. And when you stop worrying about making someone like you, people will naturally like you and respect you more for being grounded in your reality. The people who are best at this don't care what others think of them, they have a good time whatever happens. If she likes you, great, if not, sucks for her, because it would have been an awesome trip for her. Well yeah, but most women are not going to go for that. They can get dick anytime anywhere, and shes out to enjoy herself, not be challenged by some PUA. I once visited a recruiter to help me ace an interview, and she told me that the number 1 thing, if the interviewer likes you, she'll hire you, if she dont, it wont matter what your resume looks like. It comes down to people liking you to succeed in most things. Some people put on airs to get people to like them, some try to hard(i see guys trying way to hard at clubs). Like leads to most things.

Author:	Tr@veler [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:18 pm ]
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The thing is you can't control whether she will or won't like your personality. If you are a fun, grounded person there is a higher chance people will like you. But you can't control their actual liking you. It's just like when you approach, you cannot control whether she will let you in or reject you. You can be the most fun person ever, but if she's just not digging you, you can't do much else.

Author:	midlife_crysus [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:20 pm ]
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Quote: The thing is you can't control whether she will or won't like your personality. If you are a fun, grounded person there is a higher chance people will like you. But you can't control their actual liking you. It's just like when you approach, you cannot control whether she will let you in or reject you. You can be the most fun person ever, but if she's just not digging you, you can't do much else. But thats the point, you cant control that, so you cant control who will fuck you, if anybody at all.

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Author:	jurupa [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What % of The Pickup is Mid-Game?
I agree that mid game counts for "80%" in general but that is not to say sometimes opening carries more value from time to time. As far as material on being a more interesting person, just be your self. You can read all sort of things until your blue in the face but at the end of the day just let your personality out.

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