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Author:  Kemwer [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  HB with BF
Hey guys,

So this couple of weeks I've been hanging out with this HB who I made out while she had a BF, she used to tell me how insecure he was to which I used to say " he's just in love with you that's cute!" No, he's insecure and annoying was her usual answer as if I was'nt getting the point, she was trying to convince me.

The deal was she was gonna take a break from him and we would mess around meanwhile but she said she was going to get back with him anyways after a while

We had amazing sex 3 times last week, the last time was her first time doing anal and I thought we were having a really good time, I think she trusts me a lot plus she can see Im not a pussy like her BF... until this last couple of days were I started acting like one and started treating her like a girl I like and not some random girl to which she said things between us were getting too serious, still that same night she stayed to sleep with me which was a first.

Everything seemed fine the next morning but the next day she was supposed to come to my place I got a call from her, she said was'nt gonna make it and that she thought she was getting back with her BF she had seen a night before at a party, she said she had the best time with me but they had a 2 year realationship.

This was the day before yesterday, I've been thinking a lot about this HB in particular, I feel I left my guard down and even though I know things were'nt gonna last for long but I just wanted a bit more time. She says she wants to keep talking to me and she likes how I tease her but that nothing else can happen, she's been trying to talk to me about random stuff but I don't know what exactly to do I just wanna keep having sex with her or maybe in the long run get her to be my F-buddy but I dont think acting like her friend will do that... I don't know what to do exactly plus I'm feeling kinda down
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HB with BF
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" he's just in love with you that's cute!"
That was classic Bro! great job!... It's that mind set and that kind of game that got her into your bed in the 1st place. So why CHANGE that! women love a clinger likely even less than Men do, but of course will still keep you around to listen to all their bullshit...Don't do it! You are about 3" away from the 'ol "friend zone" :roll:

Tell her she has made a wise choice, her BF is obviously head over heels for her, and would be much more understanding than you.

If she tells you a bunch of emotional crap, respond by telling her she has a nice ass!

Then don't reply unless it is to set up a "I need to see you one more time" ...make sure it is for SEX! 8)
Author:  Kemwer [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:09 pm ]
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Hey dude thx I know I dropped my game at the end but I know I did a good jo, the thing is I've been feeling kinda down afterwards, I think I feel as if she picked him over me and dont know why it bothers me, I've been thinking about it and I would'nt like her to be my GF, she cheated on him!!! she could do the same to me.

Yesterday she called me to tell me about how jealous her boyfriend is and about how she was having a bad time now that she was back with him and how she was going to go to NY for a couple of weeks in 3 days, thats when I told her hey why dont we get together before you take off to which she replied she had too many issues with her BF and that it was better not to... it sucks!!

To be honest I feel like shit right now.. I know it will get better I just wanna know if you guys know some ways to speed up the process
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:42 pm ]
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.. I know it will get better I just wanna know if you guys know some ways to speed up the process
YES! text this to every girl you know: U+ME+COLD BEER=GOOD TIMES!

Speedy as fuck!
Author:  RetiredRodeo [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:04 pm ]
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Hey dude thx I know I dropped my game at the end but I know I did a good jo, the thing is I've been feeling kinda down afterwards, I think I feel as if she picked him over me and dont know why it bothers me, I've been thinking about it and I would'nt like her to be my GF, she cheated on him!!! she could do the same to me.

Yesterday she called me to tell me about how jealous her boyfriend is and about how she was having a bad time now that she was back with him and how she was going to go to NY for a couple of weeks in 3 days, thats when I told her hey why dont we get together before you take off to which she replied she had too many issues with her BF and that it was better not to... it sucks!!

To be honest I feel like shit right now.. I know it will get better I just wanna know if you guys know some ways to speed up the process
Remove yourself as her shoulder.

"Listen, I'm tired of hearing about your BF. You have a MAN in front of you and you're choosing a boy. Frankly, that makes you less attractive in my eyes."

Then, my friend - YOU gain control.

If she gets pissed - BIG FUCKING DEAL? You don't hear anymore bullshit about some other dude.

If she runs to you - well, game on - be careful what you wish for...


RR
Author:  Hammerofdawn [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:12 pm ]
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Remove yourself as her shoulder.

"Listen, I'm tired of hearing about your BF. You have a MAN in front of you and you're choosing a boy. Frankly, that makes you less attractive in my eyes."

Then, my friend - YOU gain control.

If she gets pissed - BIG FUCKING DEAL? You don't hear anymore bullshit about some other dude.

If she runs to you - well, game on - be careful what you wish for...

RR
Solid advice - Nothing I can add to improve on it :)
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:15 pm ]
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"Listen, I'm tired of hearing about your BF. You have a MAN in front of you and you're choosing a boy. Frankly, that makes you less attractive in my eyes."


Ha! Nice line RR! much respect for your gift of the natural PUA vernacular
Author:  dark one [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:12 pm ]
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well no offense but her bf is not a pussy haha he has ever right to be jealous....his gf is fucking another dude.

I cant stand chicks like this! what would I do? bang her, take pictures, and show her bf the next day haha

You don't like this girl im guessing? get what you want and then give the bf what he wants...win, win lol
Author:  RetiredRodeo [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:36 pm ]
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well no offense but her bf is not a pussy haha he has ever right to be jealous....his gf is fucking another dude.

I cant stand chicks like this! what would I do? bang her, take pictures, and show her bf the next day haha

You don't like this girl im guessing? get what you want and then give the bf what he wants...win, win lol
You have no idea what I meant.

If he's jealous - it's an immature emotion. You drive that point home to her - you show the difference. YOU define the standard, and make her compare him to you. If you doubt you can deliver on that premise - you need to work on inner-game and quit worrying about it completely for a while...

You see... I don't get jealous. I LIKE IT when men hit on a woman I'm with. It does nothing to bother me. It turns me on. She's hot, being admired - and I'll be the one fucking her. I will trust her, or I won't be with her - it's that simple. It's when you confuse it with bullshit and excuses that you start trying to justify your actions...and you lose self-credibility.

I don't give a damn if her BF is 6'10", 300lbs and can bench a mack truck. He's emotionally immature if he's the jealous type - and I use that information to MY advantage. I don't give a fuck if he gets jealous. How can I escalate from his actions? From past experience, it works best when you can AMOG her BF when he's not around. You - through conversation - explain what YOU are like in a relationship, and what you expect from a mate, and how you're the Prince Charming she needs.... BUT - you never tell her that about herself, keep it 3rd person... "I want a lady I can yada yada yada with...." (mention an activity, a retreat, a cool date moment - be sappy if you want!) "I want a chick who......" then mention 3 traits, one of which is specific to her. If she asks about that trait somehow being her, you immediately dismiss it and neg her. "Come on, obsess much? You're taken, remember?". I become the standard by which her BF is measured - and everytime he fucks up, or doesn't deliver AT ALL - she thinks "Rodeo won't do that...." "Rodeo would make me feel safe...". It's an assassin's game. You help destroy this guy without YOU doing anything but talking. His every action becomes scrutinized based on the power of suggestion.... Understand the concept - it works.

My standards:
-If a chick is married - I don't game her unless she games me.
-If she's engaged, I'll wait for more than 2-3 IOI's before approaching...
-If she has a BF, she's fair game. I don't give a fuck about boyfriends.

After that, if I can game her - the relationship wasn't serious as it is - and I'm doing her a favor.

Change your mindset. Trust me, you have no future with game concerned with how another man is feeling about some chick. She's a free spirit, she doesn't belong to him.


RR
Author:  dark one [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:48 pm ]
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well no offense but her bf is not a pussy haha he has ever right to be jealous....his gf is fucking another dude.

I cant stand chicks like this! what would I do? bang her, take pictures, and show her bf the next day haha

You don't like this girl im guessing? get what you want and then give the bf what he wants...win, win lol
You have no idea what I meant.

If he's jealous - it's an immature emotion. You drive that point home to her - you show the difference. YOU define the standard, and make her compare him to you. If you doubt you can deliver on that premise - you need to work on inner-game and quit worrying about it completely for a while...

You see... I don't get jealous. I LIKE IT when men hit on a woman I'm with. It does nothing to bother me. It turns me on. She's hot, being admired - and I'll be the one fucking her. I will trust her, or I won't be with her - it's that simple. It's when you confuse it with bullshit and excuses that you start trying to justify your actions...and you lose self-credibility.

I don't give a damn if her BF is 6'10", 300lbs and can bench a mack truck. He's emotionally immature if he's the jealous type - and I use that information to MY advantage. I don't give a fuck if he gets jealous. How can I escalate from his actions? From past experience, it works best when you can AMOG her BF when he's not around. You - through conversation - explain what YOU are like in a relationship, and what you expect from a mate, and how you're the Prince Charming she needs.... BUT - you never tell her that about herself, keep it 3rd person... "I want a lady I can yada yada yada with...." (mention an activity, a retreat, a cool date moment - be sappy if you want!) "I want a chick who......" then mention 3 traits, one of which is specific to her. If she asks about that trait somehow being her, you immediately dismiss it and neg her. "Come on, obsess much? You're taken, remember?". I become the standard by which her BF is measured - and everytime he fucks up, or doesn't deliver AT ALL - she thinks "Rodeo won't do that...." "Rodeo would make me feel safe...". It's an assassin's game. You help destroy this guy without YOU doing anything but talking. His every action becomes scrutinized based on the power of suggestion.... Understand the concept - it works.

My standards:
-If a chick is married - I don't game her unless she games me.
-If she's engaged, I'll wait for more than 2-3 IOI's before approaching...
-If she has a BF, she's fair game. I don't give a fuck about boyfriends.

After that, if I can game her - the relationship wasn't serious as it is - and I'm doing her a favor.

Change your mindset. Trust me, you have no future with game concerned with how another man is feeling about some chick. She's a free spirit, she doesn't belong to him.


RR
haha take is easy man....no need to be so hostile. My inner game is solid as a rock, I just don't like bitches who talk about how their bf is the problem and yet they are able to cheat. A relationship is a two way street, and women will make excuses for their bad behaviour so that that can justify sleeping with you or me.

When I get a girl in bed who goes on about how her bf is jealous or her bf did this and that I think "here we go she has to justify it to her self...lets get on with this already!"

Women like this are scum, there are good women out there and then there are scummy women, bottom feeders who stay in a relationship and lie to their bf's while they cheat.

As far as standers go lets be honest here man...its all the same! "2-3 IOI's", no "married women" we screw hot women, most of us have no moral ground when it comes to who we sleep with, if she is going to cheat and she is hot then it might as well be with me....that about all that goes through most of our minds, there is no moral ground when you are dealing with any kind of relationship lol
Author:  dark one [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:00 pm ]
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I don't do the cheat on you bf thing anymore...and you know why? because I can't stand these scummy chicks in my bed telling me their relationship issues, know that some dude is at home thinking she is just having a girls night.

Why did I change my view? this forum actually, I see to many good guys in here who have been screwed over by women they have invested everything in! I started to realize "wow, I could be banging one of these guys gf's, while at the same time giving advice on how he can find out if she is cheating" it made me think about the kind of person I wanted to be.

To each their own, I don't judge, if a girl is going to cheat it might as well be with you...all the more power to you! but I have exited that part of the game.
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:09 pm ]
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BFs do not mean shit, most beautiful women are "taken" until they stray to the more desirable mating partner, we are primates...it's what we do! If you want to keep her...BE the more desirable mating partner!
Author:  RetiredRodeo [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:21 pm ]
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haha take is easy man....no need to be so hostile.
You thought I was hostile? Really?

Wow....


Yeah, your game is 'rock solid'.

All good things.


I'm out.



RR
Author:  dark one [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:42 pm ]
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haha take is easy man....no need to be so hostile.
You thought I was hostile? Really?

Wow....


Yeah, your game is 'rock solid'.

All good things.


I'm out.



RR
We are all friends here man, all opinion are welcome and must be respected, unforchantly you and I do not agree which is ok. I respect what you have said but there is no need for you to tell me my inner game is soft based on one post. If that's how you feel then its no sweat off my back.
Author:  Kemwer [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:50 am ]
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hey guys thanks for the advice, I like specially what RR said about making her meet your values it frames everything as if you're the prize and I know I've been lowering my value in her eyes by starting to be like her BF, my question is if at this point I should talk to her and keep trying? cause she already "chose" her relationship or just freeze her out and build value and wait for her to start any interaction
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