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| Author: | Justeffy [ Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mystery's "DHV" Vs Tyler's "No need to DHV" ? |
Mystery says that you'll get girls if you can demonstrate that and that and that. Tyler says that by NOT demonstrating all that stuff, you convince the girl(s) that you don't need to show off. These two are complete opposites to me. Which theory do you guys stick to the most? |
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| Author: | Burek. [ Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:20 pm ] |
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neither, dont brag, just use storytelling how like what crazy shit you and your buddy's do talk about anything fun,don't brag and that's it. |
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| Author: | CaptainJackHarkness [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:17 am ] |
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Do whichever is congruent. Personally, I didn't like lying to girls about everything in terms of fake-ass stories...so I went Tyler's route in terms of direct game. That...and I coinstructed HOTSEAT 2.... |
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| Author: | 0uch [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:13 pm ] |
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Tyler is more legit then Mystery. He can actually go out dress normal and get women while Mystery has to spend hours and hours getting ready and picking out his clothes. |
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| Author: | JuanAntonioB [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:34 pm ] |
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Mystery was the pioneer however the movement has shifted to natural game. personally i prefer RSD approach, because it is logical and encourages you to develop and be yourself, whereas MM is alot about faking shit |
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| Author: | Mr Reactive Sweatman [ Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:25 pm ] |
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tyler isnt saying that you DONT demonstrate that stuff, hes saying that you ASSUME it. so for example. a guy who really does have high value, doesnt feel the need to tell the dhv stories in the first place, as he already KNOWS he has the higher value. by even entering the frame of thinking about conveying value, you are assuming your true value is lower than hers. if you go into set acting/saying whatever the hell you want, this shows you are comfortable and confident in yourself. which shows much more value and therefore makes her much more attracted to you, than if you were to try and tell a story or something. i got a great response from telling a girl how theraputic i thought ironing was! (weird. i know, but, as a student, rediscovering the iron was big for me!) this would classically display fuck all value according to MM. However the chick was attracted because i was so confident in what i was saying and didnt give a fuck! [/i] |
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| Author: | abyys [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:23 am ] |
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Pretty sure theres a 21 convention video where DjFuji whos pretty legit said that he actually tested DHV vs DLV and just stories with no +ve and -ve value and found that actually DHV's were the worst, and DLV worked better. He said it was because it made him out to be easier to relate to, less arrogant, built rapport better, and made him look more confident because he was ok with talking about his failures, he also breaks down whats wrong with DHV's and a concept too which i agree with. Basically if you aren't subtle about your DHV spikes you come across as arrogant, if your subtle then the girl doesn't notice it anyways. |
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| Author: | Heartnet [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:59 am ] |
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Here is the anwser by Tyler himself : |
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