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Author:  JustANiceGuy [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:44 am ]
Post subject:  Dealing with other men in the field.
Hey everyone. I've always been the nice guy and I'm so beyond sick and tired of coming in last. I'm really social and always have been and I'm getting over the fear of talking to girls that I used to think were "out of my league" but what I'm a little uneasy about is what I can do to not lose her interest if another alpha (who maybe has more practice being alpha) comes into the scene and takes away her attention. What can I do to prevent this from ever being an issue without looking like a douchebag.
Author:  PUASUAVE' [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:23 pm ]
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You could approach women that don't have men escorting them...the whole alpha male thing is a mental state unless your fucking 6-6 290 lbs like Batista or whatever..and the ideal mind state is to not give a fuck about any other dudes around..even if they may appear in lets call it "alpha state" lastly from experience I noticed that when you think a girl is off limits Cuz she has some grizzly ass dude hovering around her...a lot of time that dude is the big brother..or dude that's locked in the friend zone..that she isn't attracted to but he plays the protector/Guy repellant role very well!
Author:  IwantEasyLove [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:58 pm ]
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1.) You can isolate. See the confrontation before it happens and avoid. Think of every man as a threat. EVERYMAN

2.) Pre-emptive strike. Talk trash about others guys. Diss the guy before he takes your girl.

3.) Always hold your ground.

4.) Being mean is sometimes the right thing to do. You a nice guy...would you be nice to hitler????
Author:  Radar01 [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:38 pm ]
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1.) You can isolate. See the confrontation before it happens and avoid. Think of every man as a threat. EVERYMAN

2.) Pre-emptive strike. Talk trash about others guys. Diss the guy before he takes your girl.

3.) Always hold your ground.

4.) Being mean is sometimes the right thing to do. You a nice guy...would you be nice to hitler????

I'm not in agreement with this except maybe the first point isolation and 'holding your ground'. Almost no guy will try and break you up if its just you and a girl.

However maybe most of the time the other guys/'amogs' are a threat because you perceive them to be a threat. If you just treated them as normal guys said hello had a decent chat you'd be fine. If you happen to have another guy who literally tries to tool you just smirk don't get bothered and you could even eye code with the girl. In my experience this type of thing isn't that common and I find it a bit strange that this is your first and main issue with pick up the competition, just smile and don't let anyone affect your frame/ state of mind and carry on with what you want to do.
Author:  Hammerofdawn [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:15 pm ]
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If you happen to have another guy who literally tries to tool you just smirk don't get bothered and you could even eye code with the girl.
This is gold in the field, this only ever happened to me once before but the best thing you can do is stay cool, dominate the frame (stand along side her both facing towards him) and present both yourself and the girl as the obstacle.

Easiest way to explain is to show you this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 21C#t=630s

I'll give you a heads up of what to try avoid doing that an AMOG might prey on and swoop in, lookout for what they call the 'save me eyes' if you notice it, it would be best cutting your losses, but if you turn the tables and you notice this happening around you and you like her, maybe you could even become the AMOG and use it to your own advantage. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Y1Q#t=616s
Author:  IwantEasyLove [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:02 am ]
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Almost no guy will try and break you up if its just you and a girl.
This is a lie, a complete lie. Its just not true. If a guy percieves weakness in you and thinks he can take your girl from you he will. Think about this. Imagine you see an HB10 and she's with a guy. If you knew, If you knew you could take her from him in front of him would you? I wouldn't, but there would be the temptation to.

This poster is probably concerned about this because it has happened to him. He is probably nice all the time and being nice all the time makes you submissive and when you are submissive a man will take your girl from you. Man up son.
Author:  PUASUAVE' [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:24 am ]
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Dudes will take your girl real fast...Cuz she isn't your girl ..she is someone you want to be your girl

So its open season
Author:  0uch [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:58 am ]
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By you saying your a nice guy, I am already thinking your real beta. Work on being alpha. Notice I didn't say work on being a jerk. Just because your alpha, doesn't mean your a jerk.

Important quality to have. Forget the guys, your gonna have a hard time getting a girl to bed being beta. And when you become alpha, the guy situation will be handle.
Author:  Radar01 [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:02 pm ]
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Almost no guy will try and break you up if its just you and a girl.
This is a lie, a complete lie. Its just not true. If a guy percieves weakness in you and thinks he can take your girl from you he will. Think about this. Imagine you see an HB10 and she's with a guy. If you knew, If you knew you could take her from him in front of him would you? I wouldn't, but there would be the temptation to.

This poster is probably concerned about this because it has happened to him. He is probably nice all the time and being nice all the time makes you submissive and when you are submissive a man will take your girl from you. Man up son.

Maybe I phrased it wrong when I said 'just you and the girl' I meant like proper isolation where it's literally you and her on the couch/whatever you are both very close and touching. Not many guys will try to interrupt that and if they do you can just shut him out very easily by giving eye contact to the girl ' and giving an 'ew creepy' look to him.
It has been my experience that more guys are friendly and a lot of the time actually try to help me in field than those that try and tool me/AMOG me (though it does happen sometimes.)
My point was that this type of stuff should be dealt with later and he should work on his interactions with girls first and foremost before getting all hyped up about dealing with other guys.
Author:  RetiredRodeo [ Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:18 pm ]
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I befriend the other guys.

If I am on my game, I can get them to neg the target with me. Then, we're all buddies.... and I escalate on her. But I always try to gain acceptance by the group. Find commonality with the perceived-AMOG, and be genuinely interested. You don't have to have a pissing contest; you're simply fitting in to a new social dynamic. That dude could be a new sarge partner, a friend, or an ally; you never know.

Don't allow 'drama'. Simply stand your ground, be upbeat and personable - if you're insulted repeatedly by some guy in the group; go overboard laughing. High five him. If he doesn't return it... mention it... "Wow, that was the coolest insult ever, and you're leaving me hanging... come on dude!" And smile. Give him nowhere to go.

Some will appear to want to become "physical"... ensure you provide the undertone that THAT would be a bad idea by giving eye contact with him the entire time you're complimenting him... the placement of a shred of doubt into a man's mind will make him re-evaluate quickly.


RR
Author:  PUASUAVE' [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:26 pm ]
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Keep in mind when we say "take" your girl we mean take her attention away..which isnt guaranteed to you..i just thought you an instance where me and a friend were tryin to holla at some females in the liquor store ..some 70 year old dude started talking ..she found him humourous it totally killed our vibe..we just walked off!..its fair to note most dudes (98percent)..wont see you talking to a girl then be like "hey baby..what u doing talking to this lame..get with a real man right here!!!(this would be cavemanish)
Author:  Magnetic_Man [ Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:11 pm ]
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Don't pick a fight with the guy man. Just keep your cool, do your thing.
Simple Pickup did a video on this topic this week. You should check it out.
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