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| Author: | DustyDan [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | PUA Help Needed, An Issue I feel a lot of Upcoming PUAs Have |
Ok I have been game aware for the past few months. Up and down with things in my life. But ive been out, on an off. Some weeks a lot, some not at all. I tend to stick to Night Game downtown with a wing who is game aware but not using methods of game. But hes down to go and approach and wants to just try his "own game", which is not very good. We try and go out every weekend, sometimes in the week downtown as well. Pre Game my personality was all cocky, funny soundbites, really. Another guy would be leading the convo, storytelling and dhving to girls and id be the guy who just teases and uses cocky, funny soundbites on girls. This sometimes would get F closes on sluts and girls who like being treated like shit. Best way to describe me is emotionless, no feelings, not personable, cocky, funny. Anyway my sticking points. A lot of the material feels incongruent to my frame/personality. Downtown has a bunch of drunk 18-24yr olds girls. And a lot of the openers seem to try hard. I seem to feel this vibe from girls, especially the social hot ones. Like as if there thinking "why the fuck is this guy asking us this". Again this may be in my head and is the least of the problem as I can just force myself to use an opener if need be. So I see two girls sitting on a street or two girls standing at a bar looking around because they're bored and alone. They want to be approached. I walk in and run dental floss opener, it fits wells with me because im a muscular guy, serious looking, and cocky, so I can make it seem serious easily. They'll either giggle and play along, or they'll kind of give a look like WTF?!. So ill FTC and follow this up with a transition cold read (good one, bad one) They'll either laugh, disagree or agree. I may neg here lightly, I notice alot of 7 and unders get very offended when I neg them. So i try and be consious of this. Now heres where it gets hard for me. Usually there giving me nothing to work on here. So instead of grasping for straws like "so what you guys doing here, where you work, having fun tonight". Ill think okay DHV routine or story. Now the hotter the girl, the more bitchy/bust your balls and ADD she seems to be. So Ill think Cs vs Us or Eyebrows routine as I like and know those. I notice that these routines seem to fall flat, the girl seems bored with these stories. I notice these stories tend to work better on the hb 7 and under girls, who are just sitting, and sooo fucking bored. The hot girl with the giant ass and jean shorts wedgied up her crack, standing with a few friends, they dont seem to care. There ADD kicks in and even if they listen, your left with that "....k" kind of vibe/response. From here im usually like FUCK, this isnt going well and my old self kicks in and I run out of crap to say and usually bore them or over neg them, till they get pissed. So my issues here are really hooking the set and using the routine to make them attracted to me. As the attraction material was intended. Any help out, im sure this is a common problem with PUAS alike. |
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