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| Author: | kibz [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I have upsetted a Girl. Now what do I do? |
I met this girl through Facebook. We talked for about a week through fb messages and i got her number. We haven't met yet but through her messages, i could see that she was quite interested in me. The problem is I might have said something offensive to her and she has not been replying my text messages for 2 days which was weird. She always replied within a day. She was at work one afternoon and text that she had only 3 drinks for lunch. Then I texted her, thinking how hard is your day will make mine even better haha. Well I meant it as a joke obviuosly. But now that i think back, it was a stupid move. So she's been ignoring me since. I can apologise to her by calling or text or I could just ignore her till she initiates the conversation. So what should i do? |
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| Author: | JimD [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:58 pm ] |
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Question why she is so butt hurt, if she responds great! Move on to a different topic. Escalate for a meetup. If not you move on, there's plenty of other girls out there that look like her and are interested in you. |
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| Author: | kibz [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:34 pm ] |
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Thanks for the reply man. Yeah exactly. It might be slightly "aggressive" but I don't see why I had to be ignored. So i shouldn't apologise at all and just wait? |
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| Author: | juvx [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:40 pm ] |
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My suggestion to you.. In the future try to meet sooner. Get some coffee on the 3rd day for example. Here's why... No matter how good you are online if she meets another guy in person he will take priority over any guy she hasn't met yet. Maybe she's been ignoring you because she's met someone else... |
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| Author: | JimD [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:52 pm ] |
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Quote: Thanks for the reply man. Yeah exactly. It might be slightly "aggressive" but I don't see why I had to be ignored. So i shouldn't apologise at all and just wait?
Well first find out why she is so butt hurt. If she responds, no need to apologize, I would just forget about the incident and proceed to game even harder(escalate to meet asap)As Juvx said "No matter how good you are online if she meets another guy in person he will take priority over any guy she hasn't met yet. Maybe she's been ignoring you because she's met someone else..." If she doesn't respond, move on. If you are talking to multiple girls at once, it's much easier to forget about her, and she wasn't worth your time anyway. |
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| Author: | Liferider [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:02 pm ] |
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As jim says, try to find out why she is upset. Having her number, I'll call her straight away and ask her for some clarification. Yeah, make something even if you don't have one. As you passed texts for a week, you must be knowing something about her. Even if not, just start asking something like what's her office' goals are as one of your friend is starting an office and you are trying to collect as much as information for him. Beware, when you make a lie, you need to keep remember it till she forgets it. Once you are done with clarification, just ask her why she din't text you and if she says some other good reason, fine. You din't hurt her. If you find that she is trying to ignore you, mind it, it's because of your text. Girls at times, are sensitive. Apologize politely and say that you said it just for fun. |
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| Author: | kibz [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:22 pm ] |
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Thank you all for the advice. I'm leaning towards calling her but fabricating a lie that will make her forget about the issue will be close to impossible. So I should wait a bit longer before making the call? But if I do call her, I would portray a needy image which I want to avoid. And is it just possible that she's just playing hard to get? And if i do call her, wouldn't that mean I 'lost' in a sense. |
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| Author: | JimD [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:02 pm ] |
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Quote: I'm leaning towards calling her but fabricating a lie that will make her forget about the issue will be close to impossible. So I should wait a bit longer before making the call?
To me, there would be no reason to call her. Depending on the rapport you've built with her, yes it can appear needy.But if I do call her, I would portray a needy image which I want to avoid. So like I said just text her, "Hey are you okay?" if she responds then game's back on, if not it means she's moved on and so should you. This should tell you with the next girl you meet, you have to escalate quickly. I definitely recommend 60 Years of Challenge's materials. It's the best around, and I've tried and read a lot of shit. |
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| Author: | kibz [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:32 pm ] |
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Thanks Jim! After further thinking, I believe I can turn it back since we did have some rapport built up. I'll try it out and see what happens and in the event that she doesn't reply, I will move on. And one thing I want to clarify...Was I wrong to say that? I believe that it's just a joke but if it is...then this will be a good benchmark of 'going overboard'. |
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| Author: | Pokee [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:03 pm ] |
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Are you ok? Are you fucking kidding me? Don't ever say this. Why not just go all the way and say, "omg, I'm so so sorry if I said anything to upset you or make you feel uncomfortable. Please don't be mad at me. I want to fuck you even though we've never met in person. I'm so needy right now" That is what you are conveying with "Are you ok." You are the fucking MAN. You don't care if she's butthurt. If she doesn't like what you say, then forget her. You want a girl who likes everything you say and do because you are the man. Come on guys, aren't any of you even reading these threads? This is just basic stuff here. If you think it's alright to ask "are you ok" then you really need to spend more time reading and less time giving advice. If she doesn't respond in a week, then reopen with something funny and off the wall. Your joke was fine. Don't worry about it. I might even text her something like, "Your boss better be making you want to drink because this friday I'm gonna be at xxxxxx bar and you can hang with me." |
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| Author: | midlife_crysus [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:37 pm ] |
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First thing you have to do is learn proper grammar you haven't upsetted a girl, you have upset a girl. This is the REAL reason for your struggles with women. |
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| Author: | JimD [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:25 pm ] |
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Quote: Are you ok? Are you fucking kidding me? Don't ever say this. Why not just go all the way and say, "omg, I'm so so sorry if I said anything to upset you or make you feel uncomfortable. Please don't be mad at me. I want to fuck you even though we've never met in person. I'm so needy right now"
The "Are you okay?" is just a re-opener, like I said if she responds then great the game is back on. You forget the incident ever happened. That is what you are conveying with "Are you ok." You are the fucking MAN. You don't care if she's butthurt. If she doesn't like what you say, then forget her. You want a girl who likes everything you say and do because you are the man. Come on guys, aren't any of you even reading these threads? This is just basic stuff here. If you think it's alright to ask "are you ok" then you really need to spend more time reading and less time giving advice. If she doesn't respond in a week, then reopen with something funny and off the wall. Your joke was fine. Don't worry about it. I might even text her something like, "Your boss better be making you want to drink because this friday I'm gonna be at xxxxxx bar and you can hang with me." I'm basically qualifying her at that point, her responding(whether negative or postive) tells me she's not butt hurt and I still have a chance to rebound. If she doesn't that was the last straw, then it's time to move on. |
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| Author: | Pokee [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:42 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Are you ok? Are you fucking kidding me? Don't ever say this. Why not just go all the way and say, "omg, I'm so so sorry if I said anything to upset you or make you feel uncomfortable. Please don't be mad at me. I want to fuck you even though we've never met in person. I'm so needy right now"
The "Are you okay?" is just a re-opener, like I said if she responds then great the game is back on. You forget the incident ever happened. That is what you are conveying with "Are you ok." You are the fucking MAN. You don't care if she's butthurt. If she doesn't like what you say, then forget her. You want a girl who likes everything you say and do because you are the man. Come on guys, aren't any of you even reading these threads? This is just basic stuff here. If you think it's alright to ask "are you ok" then you really need to spend more time reading and less time giving advice. If she doesn't respond in a week, then reopen with something funny and off the wall. Your joke was fine. Don't worry about it. I might even text her something like, "Your boss better be making you want to drink because this friday I'm gonna be at xxxxxx bar and you can hang with me." I'm basically qualifying her at that point, her responding(whether negative or postive) tells me she's not butt hurt and I still have a chance to rebound. If she doesn't that was the last straw, then it's time to move on. Does that make sense? I hope I'm explaining myself good enough. Cheers! |
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| Author: | JimD [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:02 pm ] |
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Quote: I agree with everything you are saying Jim, it's just the "are you ok" part. If you are going to re-open a girl, then re-open with something new. Doing it with "r u ok" is like an admission, you are giving up your frame and allowing her to take the lead/power in the interaction. Why not just reopen with something new, and if she responds then you know she has moved past it and wasn't butthurt. And if she doesn't reply then so be it. I just think is a bad spot to put yourself in where you might have to take a defensive stance. Better to lead her past it with an opener that doesn't recall a possible mistaky you've made.
At this point, kibz has already lost the lead/power in the interaction. I was looking at the situation that kibz could say near darn anything because the girl already has made up her mind whether or not she was going to respond to him ever again. Does that make sense? I hope I'm explaining myself good enough. Cheers! But I totally agree with you to re-open with something new. Most of the time I don't waste another breath on girls that aren't interested, especially in a case where I've never even met them before lol. Time to move on, case closed. lol |
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| Author: | Liferider [ Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:59 pm ] |
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Kibz, i think you've overlooked my post 
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