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Author:  looper [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:21 am ]
Post subject:  Some weird ass body language

Okay, so this shit has happened so many times and I honestly don't know what to make of it. It's even happened with girls that are attracted to me.
I'll give them a compliment, and they just give this weird ass fucking expression. Like their eyes kinda get bigger...they almost look repulsed, then just say "thanks"
What the fuck does this expression mean? Like if you're attracted to somebody and you get a compliment from them you're not going to be repulsed, so why give an expression like that.

The same thing will happen if I catch a chick checking me out. She'll get this repulsed look on her face and look away. Like, fuck. Bitch you were just checking me out, don't act like I'm ugly or something. Is this a facial expression that portrays insecurity? Shyness? Or is it actually an expression of repulsiveness?
What is this?

Author:  looper [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:48 am ]
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Bump

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:16 am ]
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First, you'll have to distinguish between the pupils and the flesh covering the eyes. There's a big difference. Many people don't, or even never, notice the pupils. Look at the picture below. Find the black circle in the center of the eye. It's right in the middle of the yellow orange color. That black circle is the pupil. Meanwhile, the yellow orange one is the iris.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 7s_eye.JPG "A woman's eye." by Petar Milosevic | Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license from Wikipedia.

When a woman likes you or is sexually attracted to you, that pupil will grow big occupying almost the entire iris or yellow orange area. Some people have (instead of yellow orange) brown or grey irises surrounding their pupils.

When a person is sleepy or is exposed to very bright light, the flesh covering the eyes will hide the eyeballs to such an extent that the eyes look small. This does not necessarily mean that the pupils are small. On the other hand, when a person is wide awake from taking too much coffee, the flesh covering the eyes will expose a bigger portion of the eyeballs. Again, this does not necessarily mean that the pupils are likewise bigger. The pupils could be smaller in relation to the iris even when the flesh covering the eye is wide open.

Second, you'll have to practice looking at the pupils. Here's a training exercise to do this: is-strong-eye-contact-creepy-vt133298.html?highlight=

Third, women are very subtle creatures. Unless you have built wide and deep rapport with them, you cannot just tell them straight to their face that they are attracted to you without them denying that they were checking you out.

Fourth, a woman can fake a repulsed look by raising an eyebrow, frowning her forehead and then pouting her mouth but she can never fake her sexual attraction to you through dilated (bigger) pupils.

In this case, talk to her while looking directly at her pupils while you're imagining that your cock is entering her pussy. Just look at her pupils. Don't look at her boobies or anything. Just the pupils.

Next, invade her personal space without touching her. Her personal space (if you're a Westerner, Asians have a closer personal space) should be around 2 feet to 18 inches. If she doesn't pull back, hold her hand and continue talking. Check out Warped Mindless' Complete Day Game Guide at the PUA Lounge for the next steps, here: complete-daygame-guide-vt133745.html. :twisted:

Author:  looper [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:03 pm ]
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Yeah, I know the pupil trick. Problem was, this happened outside at night last night.
Anyway, she's actually invaded my space before and shown other signs of attraction, which makes me further wonder why chicks do this? Surely somebody knows what I'm talking about.

Author:  looper [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:30 pm ]
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Bump, anything?

Author:  daffy duck [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:37 pm ]
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what kind of compliment did you give them? exactly what did you say?

i remember once smiling at this girl who walked past and she kissed her teeth and gave me a look of disgust. in my mind i was just smiling but from her POV it may have been interpreted as something different.

Author:  SexAddict911 [ Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:24 pm ]
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If you are an attractive man, it is a sign of insecurity, most women are incredibly insecure and cannot take a compliment. If you compliment something they believe to be a weakness in their looks, they will give you a face like you are crazy. It's generally just an unconscious gesture or defense mechanism, I'd say most women don't even know they are making that expression.

The best way to find out is to keep pressing it, challenge them on the expression they made, ask them if they don't believe your compliment. etc etc.

You will be surprised how many beautiful women are completely insecure and cannot take a compliment.

Author:  looper [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:27 am ]
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If you are an attractive man, it is a sign of insecurity, most women are incredibly insecure and cannot take a compliment. If you compliment something they believe to be a weakness in their looks, they will give you a face like you are crazy. It's generally just an unconscious gesture or defense mechanism, I'd say most women don't even know they are making that expression.

The best way to find out is to keep pressing it, challenge them on the expression they made, ask them if they don't believe your compliment. etc etc.

You will be surprised how many beautiful women are completely insecure and cannot take a compliment.
Ok, that's what I thought it was

Author:  JamesWatson31 [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:27 am ]
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I only would give a compliment as a reward if she is pleasing me in some way and certainly not when opening etc.

Author:  Ten74 [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:14 am ]
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Yeah it would be good if you told us exactly what your compliments are, and to what age female, and in what context.

For all we know maybe there's a lack of calibration in timing or the compliment itself is too strong. I mean you say this happens a lot right? Not all women are insecure.... when you find a repetitive negative pattern with many different women at different times, I'd usually say it's the guys problem during his execution...

But in this case you can tell us straight out how it went down...

Author:  SexAddict911 [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:29 am ]
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Not all women are insecure....
I'd have to disagree with this comment....all are to one extent or another and most are on the higher level of insecurity.

Author:  safety [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:39 am ]
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i get this look quite often too, i think its more a shock to them and them not really knowing how to react.
thats how i take it anyway

Author:  Ten74 [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:02 pm ]
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Not all women are insecure....
I'd have to disagree with this comment....all are to one extent or another and most are on the higher level of insecurity.
OK SA911 - the thing is I don't really like absolute statements, especially when analyzing the entire female race.... My ex 5 yr GF is a psychologist AND extremely insecure, so we talked about that a lot... I sort of meant that their insecurities are not always in the extreme neuroses department (high end of the scale) :)

That said, all humans (male and female) have neurosis and insecurities, it's impossible not to have them. What I meant was that some women (as well as some men) have them in check, and they don't hinder their social interactions significantly.

I agree with you that with regards to physical appearance women are more insecure than men, maybe on the hogher end of the scale because that is primarily what they are valued for (and this aggravates as they get older)

Would you agree then that some women have a handle on the "typical" insecurities that most women let govern their minds? Just for arguments sake not really for the OP (I would like to know exactly what he is saying to them)...

Author:  detox75 [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:16 pm ]
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the fact is looper, no one is going to be able to give you a definitive answer based on what you described here. But the bad reaction from the target certainly has more to do with your delivery and body language then the content of your opener.

As Sexaddict implied, if you continue, regardless of her reaction, with the right frame she will respond positively. It may not result in the close you want, but a woman will always respect a confident man even if she actually isn't attracted to him for whatever reason.

Author:  SexAddict911 [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:30 pm ]
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Not all women are insecure....
I'd have to disagree with this comment....all are to one extent or another and most are on the higher level of insecurity.
OK SA911 - the thing is I don't really like absolute statements, especially when analyzing the entire female race.... My ex 5 yr GF is a psychologist AND extremely insecure, so we talked about that a lot... I sort of meant that their insecurities are not always in the extreme neuroses department (high end of the scale) :)

That said, all humans (male and female) have neurosis and insecurities, it's impossible not to have them. What I meant was that some women (as well as some men) have them in check, and they don't hinder their social interactions significantly.

I agree with you that with regards to physical appearance women are more insecure than men, maybe on the hogher end of the scale because that is primarily what they are valued for (and this aggravates as they get older)

Would you agree then that some women have a handle on the "typical" insecurities that most women let govern their minds? Just for arguments sake not really for the OP (I would like to know exactly what he is saying to them)...
Yes I understand what you are saying about absolute. I don't really like to use that word either or judge an entire race. You are correct not ALL are to the extreme. I can only speak from my experience, and study of the female mind.

I know some truly fascinating women that exhibit amazing confidence and appear to not be insecure what so ever. Of course they are far and few between and if i told anyone of them that they had a fat ass, well I am sure you know what would happen.

I know some truly POWERFUL women that crumble like a 10 year old fat girls that are going swimming the first time in public as soon as it comes to men and dating.

In my experience, even the women that seem to be in absolute control over men/dating and their own sexuality are usually harboring more insecurity then most.

Speaking in general terms and not for the entire species. I'd still have to stick to my first assessment.

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