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Author:  BeardlessSanta [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:11 am ]
Post subject:  A Few IODs/Shit Tests I THINK
So I went on this date the other night and have a few questions.

Near the end of our meal, she says "When the waiter comes back, just tell her to put it on two seperate bills." Well I had planned on paying and replied with, "Nah, I got it." She again said no, no I need to pay for my meal", and I answered her with bringing up the last time we had eaten together at some fast food place..."No, I should pay for your meal. Last time we went out to eat you (embarrassingly but she insisted) spotted me $3 dollars. Now I'm just gettin' you back times 10 :)" And she was like, "uh ok." It really seemed like she wanted to pay for her meal but I wasn't about to let that happen!

I was just curious as to if her wanting to pay for her own meal is an IOD.

I'm not asking y'all if she likes me or anything stupid like that. I just want to be aware of IODs so I don't make mistakes the next time.

Another question. We ate dinner for around an hour and a half together. I'm not hard of hearing but within that hour and a half I said what/pardon me/I'm sorry? when I didn't hear her like THREE TIMES; that is it! and on the last one she said "Are you hard of hearing or something?" That bothered me a little bit because I only said it a few times. WTF...so I responded back with, "No, you just aren't speaking clear enough." I didn't say it in a normal tone; so she kept talking. I was wondering if this was an IOD or maybe she was letting me know that I needed to get closer to her or some shit? Some wierd shit test...

I definitely made up for it though on the way out because she knew the girl who seated us (who was ASSURINGLY giving me some strong ass IOIs) and we chit chatted with her for a little bit and she told the girl she didn't here the last thing she said and I butted in saying, "ARE YOU HARD OF HEARING?" and she got a fucking kick out of that!

But back on to what I was saying! Are these some definite IODs or maybe just a shit test? Thanks in advance for the help! :)
Author:  BeardlessSanta [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:00 am ]
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bump crackas!
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:12 am ]
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Dude....sounds like she had a bad date and I don't blame her. You got way too reactive about it and it seemed like the vibe was off from the get go.

Also...the hell are you doing insisting to pay for the meal? Why were you so hard-pressed on paying for you both? Is this some sort of chivalry isn't dead sort of display? The idea that the man needs to pay for the meal is retarded and I know you didn't ask us if she likes you or not, but I guess you already figured out there wasn't much there (so no she doesn't).

You just wasted your money, and worst off it could have come off like you were needy from her about something. Oh no no, I WILL pay....get you back 10 times haha im so witty...but im secretly paying so i hope i can get into your vagina.

Dude.....you sound like you were a civilized man about it, but it was just bad from the start and the latter things HARDLY helped send it in the right direction.
Author:  BeardlessSanta [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:27 pm ]
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You say it was a bad date, but she wanted to see me the next day, you can't just judge that it was a bad date from the one thing I told you, because other than that we had a great conversation.

My only question was asking if those were shit tests. Because afterwards I asked her if she wanted to go to a party with me and she said hell yes.

So check this out again...
Author:  Tr@veler [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:59 pm ]
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No, this was not a shit test. Unfortunately that thing about paying for dinner, paying for movie tickets, all that "gentleman" stuff that I was also brought up with, it is of no use at this stage.

Why shouldn't you pay? Because it screams out this is a date, I really want your vagina, so let me pay and show you how much I want you.

How could you have handled the situation better? Be non reactive. Say Ok, and be done with it. She wanted to pay, let her pay! The fact that you insisted on paying made the situation awkward, and a situation is only as awkward as YOU make it, remember that please. I have fucked up several times with a girl, but next time treated it like it never happened, and we were back in comfort zone.

You really should have been a man and let it go, be like "OK I'm comfortable with that." If YOU are comfortable, she will be. But really, you shouldn't have been paying for her in the first place.
Author:  debovnik [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:43 pm ]
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no, her paying for her meal is her using common sense

a relationship is 50/50

she is showing common sense and good social intelligence
Author:  BeardlessSanta [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:37 pm ]
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Ok, thanks guys...just small mistake I sure as hell won't be making in the future! Yeah, I get it now; if they insist then I shouldn't argue agains them.
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:30 am ]
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You say it was a bad date, but she wanted to see me the next day, you can't just judge that it was a bad date from the one thing I told you, because other than that we had a great conversation.

My only question was asking if those were shit tests. Because afterwards I asked her if she wanted to go to a party with me and she said hell yes.

So check this out again...
Just because she wanted to see you next day does not mean she is romantically invested in you. She could have nothing better to do.
Author:  BeardlessSanta [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:52 pm ]
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or maybe worse, I could just be friend zoned. I'm still in the learning process of this pua stuff!
Author:  Crypto [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:07 pm ]
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Additionally by paying for her meal you have set a precedent and now she can expect you to always pay! I will often times say "I will get dinner, you can buy the drinks at the club", or vice versa...Just keep it casual.

Peace...
Author:  BeardlessSanta [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:20 pm ]
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yeah well I sorta did that. I said I'll pay for the meal and you can get the tip.
Author:  electric gypsy [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:24 pm ]
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Dude....sounds like she had a bad date and I don't blame her. You got way too reactive about it and it seemed like the vibe was off from the get go.

Also...the hell are you doing insisting to pay for the meal? Why were you so hard-pressed on paying for you both? Is this some sort of chivalry isn't dead sort of display? The idea that the man needs to pay for the meal is retarded and I know you didn't ask us if she likes you or not, but I guess you already figured out there wasn't much there (so no she doesn't).

You just wasted your money, and worst off it could have come off like you were needy from her about something. Oh no no, I WILL pay....get you back 10 times haha im so witty...but im secretly paying so i hope i can get into your vagina.

Dude.....you sound like you were a civilized man about it, but it was just bad from the start and the latter things HARDLY helped send it in the right direction.
you give good advice but come off as such as asshole lol
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