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My opener works for even hb 9 and 10's.How can I improve it?
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Author:  Criss hell [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:00 am ]
Post subject:  My opener works for even hb 9 and 10's.How can I improve it?
Hey guy,
I am using a simple opener which works for me day or night and for every hb with almost no rejection so far.

What I say is :

Me: Hey there, Do you have Russian/italian/German background by chance? (I choose nationality based on her look for exmaple if she is blond I go with Russian or German)

HB: yes/ no blah blahh (It doesn't matter if My guess is right or not.However If I am right about her background , most of the time they will be kind of excited and ask me why?)

ME:I have a friend she is from ___.(fill it with chosen nationality). Omg , She looks like you. I thought it was her.

if I am wrong, I just ask her : "where she is from etc..."

At the end , I reach my goal which is opening her in natural way.

Honestly, after using some other openers, I just use this opener now and it works for me all the time. (Although my look could help me too.)
However, since I am not native, you guys can help to improve it and make it better.
I think it has good potential to tease her and especially her looks and make it more fun .Any suggestion really appreciated!
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:18 am ]
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When you open, how do you proceed???

Just seems like a social opener...
Author:  Criss hell [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:36 am ]
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When you open, how do you proceed???

Just seems like a social opener...
If the hb is with a friend (80% of time), I ask who is she and how they know each other and go with other routines.
If she is alone, most of the time the result is based on whether she is interested in me or not.
I am not native and have accent.Most of the time they ask me where I am from etc...
and it could be an IOI...

Well, I think that's all we need from a good opener. right?
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:38 am ]
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But if your end goal is sticking your penis inside her, it has to go beyond the "oh where you from..cool cool. how do you all know each other? cool cool"
Author:  Criss hell [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:43 am ]
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But if your end goal is sticking your penis inside her, it has to go beyond the "oh where you from..cool cool. how do you all know each other? cool cool"
You are right... But as I read from MM amd other methods , opener is just for opening not attraction or seduction and my main goal is not to be rejected even by 10s.
As I said I'e been rarely rejected by hbs using this opener even in day and my question is exactly your point.
How can I make it more fun and teasing based on her answer or how can make the opener better so that I can create attraction even from the opening?
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:45 am ]
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But if your end goal is sticking your penis inside her, it has to go beyond the "oh where you from..cool cool. how do you all know each other? cool cool"
You are right about sticking inside her.But as I read from MM amd other methods , opener is just for opening not attraction or seduction and my main goal is not to reject even by 10s.
As I said I rarely rejected by this opener even in day and my question is exactly your point.
How can I make it more fun and teasing based on her answer or how can make the opener better?
There is no free lunch. If your goal is not getting rejected, then you won't be rejected. If your goal is sticking your penis inside of her, nothing worthwhile comes without some risk. You have to risk the rejection. Mystery Method is shit, although it has some wildly great points, I suggest not following it unless you are new. If you are new, try it but realize there's a big disconnect between "oh where you from...cool cool"

and then transitioning to "I want to cum inside you so bad baby!"

Most newbies cannot make this transition, some can. That's the hardest part about indirect game - its variable. But if it works for you (report back on how many times you get fucked) then go with it.
Author:  Criss hell [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:52 am ]
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Well, I consider myself a newbie...
But dude, what you say is so direct.It may work for you but definitely I can't say something like it. It's so direct and probably won't work at least for me now.
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:55 am ]
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Well, I consider myself a newbie...
But dude, what you say is so direct.It may work for you but definitely I can't say something like it. It's so direct and probably, won't work for me and many guys.
I agree. That's why I think you should discover if it works for you by trying out your method and report back. In the meantime all we can do is guess at best.
Author:  Criss hell [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:04 am ]
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Well, I've been using it for almost 5 months. I think it's long enough.
About report, I can say 5% rejection which in many of them the hb wanted to go or busy etc ... I don't know...
Well, probably you have no problem approaching 10's now.So probably it doesn't work for you. But that's way I open 10's. In many cases I didn't fuck them but I am sure it was not my opener's problem.
Well, I can't use too many observational opener So If you guys can help to make this one more fun and teasing could be a huge help for me.
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:16 am ]
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The problem is, if you're not having fun saying it then the girls won't have fun hearing it. If you want to make it fun, use your own sense of humor. If people can't appreciate your humor (unless its crass or rude), then fuck them.
Author:  Criss hell [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:31 am ]
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The problem is, if you're not having fun saying it then the girls won't have fun hearing it. If you want to make it fun, use your own sense of humor. If people can't appreciate your humor (unless its crass or rude), then fuck them.
You are right 100%.
But consider my situation that I am not speaking with my native language so I have to learn to make it more fun. This is true for newbies too since at first it's not fun for them talking hb 10s.
So let me ask it this way, imagine this situation really happens for you.(you see an hb who look likes your friend.) Your first question would be something like that.Right?How would you make it more fun so that the hb enjoys it better?
What I am looking for is some good reponses based on her answers.(which is yes or no)
Also it would be great if anybody field test it too and share it here to know how you made it more fun.(probably would be more realistic.)
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:45 am ]
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I don't usually do it

But I'd walk up be like ...

*describe her* Yup...you're definitely "race/from country here"

Her: probably confused or laughing at it

Me: Oh right, you totally look the part. I have a friend like you, but doesn't have that much red to her hair.
Author:  Crypto [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:37 pm ]
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CaptJack, you're such a D!ck! Haha...Damn forums trunicated my reply! I love the way you are so matter of fact in your replies here! I am not sure why this guy is asking for advice on how to improve an opener that he says is already 95% successful, but I don't think sex is in his agenda!


Peace...
Author:  RetiredRodeo [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:44 pm ]
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But if your end goal is sticking your penis inside her, it has to go beyond the "oh where you from..cool cool. how do you all know each other? cool cool"
You are right... But as I read from MM amd other methods , opener is just for opening not attraction or seduction and my main goal is not to be rejected even by 10s.
As I said I'e been rarely rejected by hbs using this opener even in day and my question is exactly your point.
How can I make it more fun and teasing based on her answer or how can make the opener better so that I can create attraction even from the opening?
What are you asking?

You say you have an opener, and it works... but you want it to work better? How? If it's working and you're getting laid - I don't understand where the problem is?

MM is correct. The opener is NOTHING more but a conversation hook point. I don't even fucking think about it. There are too many ways to make an opening, and each must be tailored to your individual style and venue.

It's your instantaneous snap shot to say "I'm exciting, continue talking with me and you'll find out how!" -- nothing more.

I dunno - all indicators tell me "non issue".

RR
Author:  Criss hell [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:21 pm ]
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What are you asking?

You say you have an opener, and it works... but you want it to work better? How? If it's working and you're getting laid - I don't understand where the problem is?

MM is correct. The opener is NOTHING more but a conversation hook point. I don't even fucking think about it. There are too many ways to make an opening, and each must be tailored to your individual style and venue.

It's your instantaneous snap shot to say "I'm exciting, continue talking with me and you'll find out how!" -- nothing more.

I dunno - all indicators tell me "non issue".

RR
Guys , I didn't have any intention to show off.
As Crypto mentions I am not successful enough to get laid with hbs ;). The conversation gets boring and I have rarely been able to teased hbs.
So This is what I am looking for: teasing her and having more fun in conversation.If it could be related to the opener I use could help me a lot.
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