PUA Forum :: When have you gone too far?

I play a pretty aggressive game. Yesterday I was at the gym, saw a nerdy looking girl (my type) so I open and run my game, she was definitely non-responsive/uninterested. However, one of the ideas installed in me from visiting PUA sites and reading the material is to not exit prematurely and to stay in as long as possible. She had a b/f, I asked her if her b/f is keeping her happy in the bed, then winked. She really did not take kindly to it (maybe because he wasn't). 10 min later the gym manager asked if he could have a word with me. He was a cool guy and we became friends instantly so it was no biggie he just told me to keep what ever I say to women I hit on civil. This is the first time that anything like an authority figure has giving me a slap on the wrist. So I am wondering how often does this happen to you guys?

Aren't the majority of the women in the gym set on their workout and not their love life? So approaching them would just piss them off? They want to get in, do their sets and get out of there as quick as possible. My friends girlfriend actually switched gyms because guys kept on coming on to her during her workout.

An exception to the rule would I guess women who rest like 10 minutes in between sets, hardly break a sweat and spend most of their time messaging their friends and updating their FB status with "omg in the gym, getting hawt" lol. Have not seen many of those though but they exist heh.

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Besides that, I never understood why people would go to the gym and then be distracted by starting to pick up girls . . . If you're at the gym, you're there for the one and only purpose of working out. It's not a place to pick up girls and shouldn't be treated that way either.

Author:	LiquidUnit [ Wed May 30, 2012 12:47 pm ]
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I play a pretty aggressive game. Yesterday I was at the gym, saw a nerdy looking girl (my type) so I open and run my game, she was definitely non-responsive/uninterested. However, one of the ideas installed in me from visiting PUA sites and reading the material is to not exit prematurely and to stay in as long as possible. She had a b/f, I asked her if her b/f is keeping her happy in the bed, then winked. She really did not take kindly to it (maybe because he wasn't). 10 min later the gym manager asked if he could have a word with me. He was a cool guy and we became friends instantly so it was no biggie he just told me to keep what ever I say to women I hit on civil. This is the first time that anything like an authority figure has giving me a slap on the wrist. So I am wondering how often does this happen to you guys?

Author:	RetiredRodeo [ Wed May 30, 2012 1:34 pm ]
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Quote: I play a pretty aggressive game. Yesterday I was at the gym, saw a nerdy looking girl (my type) so I open and run my game, she was definitely non-responsive/uninterested. However, one of the ideas installed in me from visiting PUA sites and reading the material is to not exit prematurely and to stay in as long as possible. She had a b/f, I asked her if her b/f is keeping her happy in the bed, then winked. She really did not take kindly to it (maybe because he wasn't). 10 min later the gym manager asked if he could have a word with me. He was a cool guy and we became friends instantly so it was no biggie he just told me to keep what ever I say to women I hit on civil. This is the first time that anything like an authority figure has giving me a slap on the wrist. So I am wondering how often does this happen to you guys? It literally never has... Wow. Dude, "stay in the set as long as possible"? Really? I disagree vehemently. Stay in the set until you know it's lost. That's MY motto. As soon as I think it's over - I bail and start a new set. There are FAR more women out there receptive to me so my staying in a dead set makes no sense. Yeah, in my best moods I wouldn't have ever said that to a chick I've just met. I've used the "Boyfriend? Well, when you're ready to upgrade from a boy to a man, let me know..." and smile... then I'll make an exit, but I never make a comment that potentially DLVs another man's sexual prowess. It's confrontational to her and not the frame I want her in. RR

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Wed May 30, 2012 1:35 pm ]
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Quote: I play a pretty aggressive game. Yesterday I was at the gym, saw a nerdy looking girl (my type) so I open and run my game, she was definitely non-responsive/uninterested. However, one of the ideas installed in me from visiting PUA sites and reading the material is to not exit prematurely and to stay in as long as possible. She had a b/f, I asked her if her b/f is keeping her happy in the bed, then winked. She really did not take kindly to it (maybe because he wasn't). 10 min later the gym manager asked if he could have a word with me. He was a cool guy and we became friends instantly so it was no biggie he just told me to keep what ever I say to women I hit on civil. This is the first time that anything like an authority figure has giving me a slap on the wrist. So I am wondering how often does this happen to you guys? Turns out, at least in my gym, that this (girls complaining to staff about advances) happens quite often! Even to the point that management is concerned about female enrollment Where there is nothing wrong with approach or opening in the gym, I believe sexual innuendo should be kept to a minimum, at least until the proper amount of comfort has been established! The key: DON'T BE A CREEPER

Author:	Little Panda [ Wed May 30, 2012 1:36 pm ]
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The manager is basically right. It's kind of inappropriate walking up to a girl in public and start questioning her about her personal life like that. What she and her boyfriend have is only between them and not the business of a complete stranger. You don't need that aggressive style of game (which is more inappropriate than 'aggressive' actually) - being simply social is enough. Too personal too quick = inappropriate and awkward.

Author:	efadrine [ Wed May 30, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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Aren't the majority of the women in the gym set on their workout and not their love life? So approaching them would just piss them off? They want to get in, do their sets and get out of there as quick as possible. My friends girlfriend actually switched gyms because guys kept on coming on to her during her workout. An exception to the rule would I guess women who rest like 10 minutes in between sets, hardly break a sweat and spend most of their time messaging their friends and updating their FB status with "omg in the gym, getting hawt" lol. Have not seen many of those though but they exist heh.

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Author:	Little Panda [ Wed May 30, 2012 1:49 pm ]
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Quote: Aren't the majority of the women in the gym set on their workout and not their love life? So approaching them would just piss them off? They want to get in, do their sets and get out of there as quick as possible. My friends girlfriend actually switched gyms because guys kept on coming on to her during her workout. An exception to the rule would I guess women who rest like 10 minutes in between sets, hardly break a sweat and spend most of their time messaging their friends and updating their FB status with "omg in the gym, getting hawt" lol. Have not seen many of those though but they exist heh. Besides that, I never understood why people would go to the gym and then be distracted by starting to pick up girls . . . If you're at the gym, you're there for the one and only purpose of working out. It's not a place to pick up girls and shouldn't be treated that way either.

Author:	efadrine [ Wed May 30, 2012 1:55 pm ]
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@LittlePanda: exactly my mentality, sure if you can socialise with gym goers but it is usually limited to " hey man can you teach me proper form/can I get your routine/etc", go up to anyone, guy or girl and they will get a bit peeved that you distracted them to just talk about non-gym related stuff.

Author:	RetiredRodeo [ Wed May 30, 2012 2:00 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Aren't the majority of the women in the gym set on their workout and not their love life? So approaching them would just piss them off? They want to get in, do their sets and get out of there as quick as possible. My friends girlfriend actually switched gyms because guys kept on coming on to her during her workout. An exception to the rule would I guess women who rest like 10 minutes in between sets, hardly break a sweat and spend most of their time messaging their friends and updating their FB status with "omg in the gym, getting hawt" lol. Have not seen many of those though but they exist heh. Besides that, I never understood why people would go to the gym and then be distracted by starting to pick up girls . . . If you're at the gym, you're there for the one and only purpose of working out. It's not a place to pick up girls and shouldn't be treated that way either. Years back, the gym used to be one of the best pick up places in town. That's subsided somewhat, but the premise that it's somehow wrong doesn't apply. If the girl gives IOIs and shows she's receptive to an approach, then you make it. Going so outwardly confrontational isn't clever, nor cool - it's creepy, and garners you a discussion with the manager. I've never worried about being confronted by a manager of an establishment. I trust myself in social situations. But you can bet your ass if I'm at the gym and a lady is giving IOIs, I'll make conversation. I make conversation EVERYWHERE. It's who I am - and if I decide to run game, I will - I don't care if it is a gym... RR

Author:	LiquidUnit [ Wed May 30, 2012 2:28 pm ]
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I have been doing the exact same thing with many girls at the gym though. I mostly get good responses, it always comes off as playful, the worst has been, "yes I am happy with my b/f he is right over there!" I should calibrate a bit more, maybe my delivery was off. This is the first time I have a problem, been going up to girls in this gym for about 3 weeks. Anywho, will just tone down the sexuality a bit. However, I don't like causal/situation indirect conversations, so I wont be doing much of that. I know gym can be a bad place to game. I normally just approach anywhere and everywhere very directly. I know what I did wrong, and how to fix it. I made this thread because I was wondering about other people's experience that lead to similar situation, because in my year of experience gaming women this is a first.

Author:	pablohernandez [ Wed May 30, 2012 2:30 pm ]
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I dont really notice women when im in the gym. I treat it like a bank robbery. Go in, guns blazing. Get what you want as fast as you can and leave. I go there to work out not to have fun. Dont get why people go there to chat. Who pays £50 a month to chat to women?

Author:	Techgame [ Wed May 30, 2012 2:33 pm ]
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Because man, picking up women means getting to know what they actually want first (i.e. qualifying) and then giving it to them. You didn't qualify, you just went up and assumed that if you tried hard she'd eventually fall at your cock. Think about that, that's basically like some aggressive greenpeace fundraising twerp walking up to you, talking to you aggressively, and asking a bunch of offensive personal questions about your life. NOT cool man. I don't know what the official PUA term is for adapting to a situation, I guess calibration? But it's necessary, you have to feel a woman mentally out before you go in on full attack, otherwise it turns into creeping. Contrary to PUA marketing bullshit, you can't get EVERY woman you want.

Author:	Little Panda [ Wed May 30, 2012 2:38 pm ]
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@RR Of course you can find ways to make PU applicable anywhere. By all means, you can even pick up girls at a funeral ceremony. Point is though, it's about how much you value your priorities. If you go to the gym, you go there for disciplinary reasons. You want to work out. You want to be fit. You want to be healthy. A beautiful woman shouldn't distract you because 'PU is your lifestyle and you pick-up any woman anywhere'. There are places where picking up girls is more in your favor than others and more 'appropriate' than others. Don't get me wrong though, if I'm at the gym and a woman throws herself at me with IOI's . . . Then hell, why not take her for a quickie in the toilet? It's a form of work-out after all.

Author:	LiquidUnit [ Wed May 30, 2012 2:51 pm ]
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This is why I really dislike posting here guys, everyone is off topic! I just wanted people to share stories of when they have gone too far, been told to fuck off, slapped in face, or had someone asked them to stop hitting on girls. I don't care about the merits of hitting on girls in the gym, or if you think I am too sexual or not. Just stories and experiences. I had fun, and I thought it was hilarious, so did my friends that I work out it, and I would/will do it again. Lets get this thread on topic, although I feel the train has already derailed.

Author:	Little Panda [ Wed May 30, 2012 2:58 pm ]
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@Liquid Personally, I've never crossed the line like that. But I was at a gay-club once and I saw a guy trying to dance with a lesbian on the dancefloor. She immediately turned away and didn't want anything to do with him. He then forcefully grabbed her hand, trying to get her to make a spin . . . At which point she turns back to him and literally claws him all over the face. It was the funniest shit I've ever seen go down. The dude bent over and started screaming while she walked off.

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