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Author:  perception [ Fri May 11, 2012 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  Ok, WTF is going on?
So according to about everything I've read related to PUA, the main idea is to not be completely stuck up a girl's ass. Being overly nice and needy is a bad thing, a horrible thing, right? Yeah, well my question is, is this the same for high school game?

I've got a friend who slays pussy all the time. His advice to me - "be super nice, they love that shit" I mean...what the hell? How does he get pussy? That goes against anything I've ever read. Are younger/high school age girls completely different? Do I need to be stuck up their ass to get pussy? I mean, I see all over Twitter and Instagram and everything else where they claim to love those "good morning" and "good night" texts guys send in which they just attempt to flatter them in anyway possible.

See: Image

This kid slays pussy, fucked this girl like a week later. And they're not even dating, met like a week ago. WTF.

And they seem to love those texts that say "hey gorgeous, I hope you're having a wonderful day. What's up?" I know there is somebody out there who knows I'm talking about.

So does this shit actually work or are girls lying to themselves? Please let me know.
Author:  Redlight [ Fri May 11, 2012 12:55 am ]
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Hey man, I wouldn't take everything you read on this forum at face value... Remember that "Effectiveness is the measure of truth"... If your friend is getting some, he must be doing something right.

My guess is that he calibrates well to the girls he meets and doesn't pull the corny stuff until the moment when he feels she will appreciate the gesture... For him it may take a couple of days or a week, and when you say "they are not even dating", think about it from the girls' perspective; if she thinks they are dating and he's her boyfriend, that's the truth, at least her version of the truth...

Try to learn the good stuff from him... if it works for you as well, maybe you guys can start teaching the stuff, even come up with an e-book... "How to text like an AFC and fuck like a PUA" LOL you have to admit that was funny :-)

Let me know how that turns out... Bye!
Author:  96Firebird [ Fri May 11, 2012 1:04 am ]
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Unfortunately, high school game is mostly about looks and social status. I think that is the driving factor here...
Author:  perception [ Fri May 11, 2012 1:17 am ]
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Unfortunately, high school game is mostly about looks and social status. I think that is the driving factor here...
Yeah, it is for sure, but what if Chick A gets the chance to fuck one guy tonight. Guy A and Guy B are equal social status, both good looking, but one kisses ass and the other negs and shit, which is going to get to fuck her? Which works better for high school, because it seems to be the AFC kiss-ass works better.

Edit: So basically what I got from that, if you're a sports star with a 986 pack of abs and 2301230 inch biceps I guess game doesn't really matter, you can just lay the pipe as you wish I guess.
Author:  DJ_Z [ Fri May 11, 2012 1:59 am ]
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Stop with the fucking negging, first off, because from the sound of it you have no idea what a neg is.

It depends on the girl. A genuinely nice, down to earth girl, if you treat her like shit, will tell you to fuck off and walk away. There is no guaranteed scenario, no single archetype that gets every girl. Figure out the girls you want, and the answer to your question becomes much easier.

Read Chief's Guide to Outer Game, in the PUA Lounge. Specifically, follow the part about writing down ten nonphysical traits you want in a woman. The fact that you asked that last question only describing her physically shows that you haven't quite gotten the hang of this yet.
Author:  perception [ Fri May 11, 2012 2:09 am ]
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Stop with the fucking negging, first off, because from the sound of it you have no idea what a neg is.

It depends on the girl. A genuinely nice, down to earth girl, if you treat her like shit, will tell you to fuck off and walk away. There is no guaranteed scenario, no single archetype that gets every girl. Figure out the girls you want, and the answer to your question becomes much easier.

Read Chief's Guide to Outer Game, in the PUA Lounge. Specifically, follow the part about writing down ten nonphysical traits you want in a woman. The fact that you asked that last question only describing her physically shows that you haven't quite gotten the hang of this yet.
I do know what a neg is actually, all I was asking if it'd be better to go down the "Did your parents not give you enough attention as a child" route or the "god you're fucking gorgeous, you look like Tyra Banks, you smell like a fucking rose" route.

I do see what you mean, though, where there's no single archetype, high school girls are such a joke though. I'll make sure to check that out, thanks.
Author:  detox75 [ Fri May 11, 2012 2:40 am ]
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that guy is either a AFC in love or an emotional vampire. Since he slays pussy we can assume hes the later. If your idea of good game, is finding a co-dependent chick who you can emotionally manipulate due to their neediness and suck the life from them , and then dump then, you can get laid all the time. I know guys who do exactly this and their are either pathological liars or narcissists, usually both.

I dont see this as good game, this is just exploiting emotionally vulnerable co-dependents.
Author:  yrquma [ Fri May 11, 2012 2:50 am ]
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I'm looking for the video, would you give the address?
Author:  perception [ Fri May 11, 2012 3:36 am ]
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that guy is either a AFC in love or an emotional vampire. Since he slays pussy we can assume hes the later. If your idea of good game, is finding a co-dependent chick who you can emotionally manipulate due to their neediness and suck the life from them , and then dump then, you can get laid all the time. I know guys who do exactly this and their are either pathological liars or narcissists, usually both.

I dont see this as good game, this is just exploiting emotionally vulnerable co-dependents.
You might have hit the nail on the head.
Author:  charblad [ Fri May 11, 2012 3:44 am ]
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Unfortunately, high school game is mostly about looks and social status. I think that is the driving factor here...
This is very true,
and even if you don't think it's that, he's still playing a numbers game; try getting any pussy you can, whether you like the girl or not, and sooner or later you're gunna start getting a lot, if you have no standards that is - but on the flip side, to everyone else it looks like your a boss who gets some everyday, when in truth you have more rejections than anyone else you know and are just getting lucky with the few easy girls you find
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I dont see this as good game, this is just exploiting emotionally vulnerable co-dependents.
Which is close to what I'm saying; trust me, getting some from a different chick everyday isn't PUA, it's desperation
Author:  Little Panda [ Fri May 11, 2012 10:13 am ]
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High school people (both guys and girls) are so highly uncalibrated that it's not even funny. You can get away with so many things that would generally be 'against the general laws of attraction'.

I blame it on inexperience and a lack of understanding themselves and what they want.

Confused teenies. That's all.
Author:  steakspeare [ Fri May 11, 2012 10:30 am ]
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I would say if shes confident and a ten, this crap doesn't work. but if she is a shy girl, maybe up to seven, it works. I tried it and the results were clear. Be different. Tell her something she doesn't hear every day and it works...
Author:  perception [ Fri May 11, 2012 6:02 pm ]
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I would say if shes confident and a ten, this crap doesn't work. but if she is a shy girl, maybe up to seven, it works. I tried it and the results were clear. Be different. Tell her something she doesn't hear every day and it works...
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to find the best route to go with the very hot, social, popular girls. The cheerleader type.
Author:  perception [ Fri May 11, 2012 6:03 pm ]
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High school people (both guys and girls) are so highly uncalibrated that it's not even funny. You can get away with so many things that would generally be 'against the general laws of attraction'.

I blame it on inexperience and a lack of understanding themselves and what they want.

Confused teenies. That's all.
Can you elaborate on "highly uncalibrated?"
And sorry about the double post.
Author:  Little Panda [ Fri May 11, 2012 6:41 pm ]
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@Perception

High school kids are part of a whole different society - their campus. They got their own social rules and they got their own way of treating each other. Combine this with the fact that they have VERY little experience with the 'real world' out there. If they have any friends, it's mostly their friends from school. If they want to introduce themselves to somebody 'new' - it'll most probably be somebody from their school again.

In addition to this, they don't even know who they are and what they want in life. Confused, as I mentioned. And the fact that the human brain has no fully evolved up until the age of 25 doesn't really help them in this case either.

This is why it's very unpredictable as to what you can and can't get away with in high school.

Try the waters out and don't be scared to try something new. If it works, it works. But don't expect it to work once you start meeting fresh faces outside of high school.
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