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Author:  MrV117 [ Fri May 04, 2012 2:44 am ]
Post subject:  Need help with this opener
So i just feel that this opener is missing something or could be fine tuned somehow.

I walk up to a girl and say the following.

ME: hi can i get your opinion on something?

GIRL: Sure

ME: well my really good friend just broke up with her fiancé. She find found out he was cheating on her. Now all she does is work and take care of her son. Her son is a good kid so im going to get him a video game. What I am wondering is if you were her what would you want to lift your spirits?"

Now if this is a good opener whats a good way to close this out?
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Fri May 04, 2012 2:51 am ]
Post subject: 
Ah...
...................right.

First of all...welcome.

I think you are new to game...because it seems to be a canned routine...which isn't bad when you start, but please note it isn't the only way to start talking to a girl.

I wouldn't even ask her if I can ask her something...I'd just go in and be like...weirdest thing happened....my friends fiance bla bla.

I mean keep in mind if you go up saying Hi..can I get your opinion on something?

Are you going to have a bitch-fit if she says

"no thanks."

Cause when I helped some people a long time ago and a place far away where opinion openers were the thing..some would just say "no" but mostly even in most basic game...you never ask.

"Hi can I ask you about asking you about something?"

That's literally what you're doing.
Author:  agentprovocateur [ Fri May 04, 2012 2:55 am ]
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Gay. Indirect crap like that makes you look weak. Just state "Hey my names so-and-so you caught my attention thought I'd say Hi"

Majority of women actually like direct guys, its refreshing to them and more importantly authentic. When you use incidentals or approach them using some indirect crap they know right away what you're doing and it just comes off awkward for everyone involved. If she likes you you can grunt and get a positive reaction. Forget the canned crap and routines.


Lots of guys use canned stuff because if they get rejected they feel it was the opener itself that the girl didn't like, NOT them. Put it on the line, be direct accept that you'll get rejected and blown out every now and then and it wont kill u.
Author:  MrV117 [ Fri May 04, 2012 2:58 am ]
Post subject: 
interesting i never looked at it like that.

My question is why just in and say " man the craziest thing just happen" line? Yes i am new but to me it just seems like the other way is more under the radar.

Im not saying your wrong or anything im just curious.
Author:  agentprovocateur [ Fri May 04, 2012 3:00 am ]
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If you can say that and sound natural go ahead, nobody's stopping you.

You are approaching her cause you are attracted to her (at least physically), why not just be honest about it instead of using some cornball line in hopes she'll jump on your junk right then and there. Be real, don't be needy.
Author:  MrV117 [ Fri May 04, 2012 3:05 am ]
Post subject: 
ok i see what you mean by that.

OK she falls for this and go along with it.

Whats a good way to go about closing this. With something like this I dont see it being a kiss close but i would like it to be a number close at lest.

If it helps at all this would be done in the day time and not night.
Author:  agentprovocateur [ Fri May 04, 2012 3:19 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
ok i see what you mean by that.

OK she falls for this and go along with it.

Whats a good way to go about closing this. With something like this I dont see it being a kiss close but i would like it to be a number close at lest.

If it helps at all this would be done in the day time and not night.
Remove yourself with outcome, in other words dont be outcome focused. Kiss closing means fuck all, all it does is give the girl validation she's desired by someone. Move in cloes to her, make eye contact, hand caressing is good (thanks 60yoc). Kissing means fuck all.
Author:  Consequences_ [ Fri May 04, 2012 4:08 am ]
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Like the guys above I prefer direct game. If I'm going to do day game it will be direct.

BUT, if your going to opinion opener, I suggest finding something relative to ask her opinion about. If she has a Bob markey shirt or something than get her opinion about something Bob Markey related. Basically, just play your opinion opener off her.

-"Hey I like your shirt. Do you really think Bob Marley believed in his lyrics or do you think he was just stoned all the time?" (smiling ofcourse)

Something to that affect. Then introduce yourself and so on and so forth.

Still, I prefer direct. I think new guys should go direct as well, uncomplicates things and is less fake.
Author:  GeorgePH [ Fri May 04, 2012 6:55 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Gay. Indirect crap like that makes you look weak. Just state "Hey my names so-and-so you caught my attention thought I'd say Hi"

Majority of women actually like direct guys, its refreshing to them and more importantly authentic. When you use incidentals or approach them using some indirect crap they know right away what you're doing and it just comes off awkward for everyone involved. If she likes you you can grunt and get a positive reaction. Forget the canned crap and routines.


Lots of guys use canned stuff because if they get rejected they feel it was the opener itself that the girl didn't like, NOT them. Put it on the line, be direct accept that you'll get rejected and blown out every now and then and it wont kill u.
I don't know how you got your neg rep because this is the second thread in which you said the 100% truth. Stop it with those weird openers.
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