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| Author: | charleshogman [ Fri May 04, 2012 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | After an opinion opener, and then a neg, how do you isolate? |
Hey guys. just a quick question. at clubs and stuff i'll use the opinion opener, and then maybe a neg, but then I like to do a cold read. How would you normally isolate the target. Or pick one out of the group? Because the initial opinion opener is directed to the whole group. |
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| Author: | TeenPua [ Fri May 04, 2012 1:05 am ] |
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great question! (If you're familiar with Mystery Method) When you do you're indirect opener, you should of already chosen your target before or 10-30 second in A1. Once you've reached the Social HOOK point proceed to A2 and start to DHV with stories, gambits, and so on. TO ISOLATE THE TARGET, you must befriend the obstacles first! REMEMBER, always befriend the obstacles and neg the target, once you've received 3-4 IOI's from the target, proceed to A3 and start finding things to qualify her for, remember, you're suppose to let her win you over SLOWLY .. YOUR THE PRIZE. Once you reached A3 give her IOI's followed by soft IOD's to balance confort levels and repeat the cycle till you have some nice kino going on. REMEMBER, if she gives you IOI's start compliance testing her! If you've done it right, negged the target, and DHV'd yourself enough you would be able to isolate the target without a problem, just simply tell her " Hey, let's go sit down I want to show you something cool"(IOI) than ask her to hold on your arm and if she complies, follow with a IOD to keep her comfort levels good by saying " Dont get any ideas, that's all you get" when she hold on your arm! you have now succesfully isolated the target! HOPE THIS helps! (: |
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| Author: | charleshogman [ Fri May 04, 2012 1:18 am ] |
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ok cool thanks man. and for DHV, what are good routines to use for the group? The DHV I normally do during day game is a handshake cold read. "Nice to meet you, I'm Charles"..."thats funny, guys can tell so much about a girl just by the way she shakes his hand"...and then I do a cold read. but that may not work for a group. what would you do to DHV for a group. |
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| Author: | TeenPua [ Sat May 05, 2012 3:04 pm ] |
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Quote: ok cool thanks man. and for DHV, what are good routines to use for the group? The DHV I normally do during day game is a handshake cold read. "Nice to meet you, I'm Charles"..."thats funny, guys can tell so much about a girl just by the way she shakes his hand"...and then I do a cold read. but that may not work for a group. what would you do to DHV for a group.
remember, when you first open a set, you dont want to ask for they're names or give your name unless they ask for it, because that simply is an IOI, your showing to much interest in the group when they havent earned it yet. you want to open the group with an indirect opener, like an opinion opener, once reached social hook point you can start introducing yourselfSome good DHV routines I would do is just simply tell stories that make you DHV, remember girls love being entertained, 6-best-dhv-stories-vt16088.html You want to cold read later on in A3 as a compliance test, works really well on getting her isolated and getting a number close or kiss close oh and remember, when you open, you want to use a false time constraint and body rock. |
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