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Author:  sheps [ Thu May 03, 2012 6:15 am ]
Post subject:  NOT an AFC-Friend Zone! EXPERTS NEEDED!!!

From the title i'm sure you can guess the issue i'll outline all the details below, this isn't the normal AFC question and please no "you have one-itis" only answers, for me that is unhelpful.

The Relationship
We met 1st year at university, at the time i was a complete AFC, and was in a honey moon stage with a different girl who i thought was "out of my league" etc all the afc bullshit (specifically as i had no idea how i'd landed "a girl like that" - this was before i realised none is perfect)
We became instant friends, our personalities just meshed that way and i didn't even see her. We were just friends, 0% attraction either way.
Then last year we moved into the same student accommodation, became closer friends (how gay does this sound, honestly i'd be yelling at myself if you could just get me a time machine) and i started to notice her, obviously seeing her in slightly less clothing etc and not being in such a deep puppy-love stage with the same girl as above. Obviously the living together situation passed me by.
It was actually about this time last year that i got into PUA as a direct result of breaking up with that afore mentioned female.

The Change
I'm starting to develop actual feelings for this girl but DO NOT have one-itis i'm completely aware of her flaws etc due to the long friendship.
The catalyst for this was last night as of writing this. I had what i can't even call a sex dream in which we were in bed. She was naked, we chatted, it was sexual and i was content. I woke up realising i want her. So i came here.

The Girl
LOOK I KNOW THIS SOUNDS LIKE ONE-ITIS BUT ITS ACTUALLY A COINCIDENCE!
She's a 9.5 maybe a 10; nice height/shape/pretty and most importantly Personality. I can't give her an angel perfect 11/10 score as i do see physical flaws, slight bingo wings, lil bit pudgy tummy, nose isn't flat etc...
She has character flaws too, chiefly she's not typically monogamous, can be manipulative, growing out of her Ugly Duckling Syndrome and she pretends to be dumb which i hate.
see i told you it wasn't one-itis

The Challenge!
We are in our final year of university together and there are 3 weeks left, obviously those are stressed filled final exams weeks but after which the likely hood of us meeting regularly is negligible.
We need to help Me go from 0% sexual to 100% viable sexual option, build attraction and break out of the friendzone in the next 3 weeks, although knowing what i know i doubt i can be un-zoned that quickly i need to plant the seeds now so that inviting her out as friends meeting up can turn into us just going out and then TO THE BEDROOM!...

The Goal?
To bed this girl! i know it sounds dirty and taboo but honestly i don't see this being a relationship. Friends W/ Benefits. Fuck Buddies. Mating Mates. I'm totally capable of being F-buddies with someone so i'm not worried about that.
Although a relationship sounds nice i'm not convinced she can be "tamed" at this stage but this is for ME. And should i say SHOULD it turn into more then surely being sexual is a better place to make that happen then deep, deep in the flaccid zone.

3 weeks... IT CAN BE DONE! Help me get it done or don't comment.

Cheers guys :)

Author:  agentprovocateur [ Thu May 03, 2012 6:27 am ]
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yawn

Author:  the_noob123 [ Thu May 03, 2012 6:29 am ]
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dude this is risky but break things off with her be distant basically . for like 2 weeks n in your last week you tell her you been feeling down n all that kick things off again but make it sound like your really gunna miss her yanoe ask about going out sometime just you and her but hint your intensions n on your day out tell her that your gunna miss her and that you want an everlasting memory of her then go for the kiss and let nature run its course
if u do this tell me how it goes

Author:  SexAddict911 [ Thu May 03, 2012 1:00 pm ]
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Ok here is what you have to do, I will break it down into 3 weeks. Ideally you want to do this on one of the last few nights you will spend together.( it makes it easier for the both of you) So try and save it for week 3. But if it presents itself before then. Need I say more.

Week 1:

Start to create a sexual vibe within the house. Become sexually suggestive, talk about sex, bring it up any chance you get. Talk about it with her, but show no inclination you want it with her. ( YET) When you bring up sex, refer to your life and other girls, or just sex in general. The reason I say don't show any interest in her while you are talking about this is because you will not be able to get a true response if her answers affect you.

What's important here is to gauge where she stands sexually, what are her views, does she get horny, is she horny. Does she detest sex, etc etc. This will help you set a basic game plan.

Week 2: (Setting the game plan into motion) Hopefully by now, you two are comfortable talking about sex, as you should of been basically jamming sexual banter down her throat in week 1. What you want to do now is get into head, plant the seed. I suggest, telling her you had a crazy sex dream about her and it was amazing. Make up something hot if she asks about it, you will have a detailed summary for her.

Throughout the week, throw her subtle compliments with sexual undertones. ie: damn you ass looks great in those shorts, I never noticed how nice your legs are. or you smell sexy, you look great today, etc etc. You need to start showing sexual interest in her, but subtle for the moment. By the end of week two, it should be quite clear that you find her sexy and want a piece of that. ( try to maintain your level of friendship while you do all this) Before the week ends, establish that you want to have an evening of just you two, and some drinks ( kind of like a farewell party for the two of you) make the invite friendly.

Week 3: ( making the move)

By now there should of been two full weeks of sexual banter and sexual suggestive comments and subtle desire.( their should be significant sexual tension) Ideally what you want to do is, get her alone, have alcohol involved. Have a nice time, when the time feels right, she has a little buzz, you want to bring up your dream again. Tell her how overwhelming it was, and how much you now desire her sexually. I would even go so far as to suggest, since your dream, you actually jerked off a few times thinking about her.. ( most women will be complimented by this, unless they have no attraction to you at all) Act really shy about it, say something like, I want to tell you something but I don't want you to laugh at me, or I dont want you to get freaked out by it. Make her work to get it out of you, get her intrigued. Then drop the jerk off bomb. If she reacts well to it, suggest that you two are friends and will soon part, and that you would love to experience her sexually and feel you could please her well. Note that it will be your secret and awesome to have something significant to remember each other by. Then confess that you have always found her sexy but you respected your friendship but now you are overwhelmed by her want to ravage her.

Become a sexual beast that night. Let all that pent up sexuality come out, overwhelm her. Be seductive, be persistent.

If she has any attraction to you, this should be a perfect set up, especially after a few drinks.

If you fail, and it completely blows up in your face. it's ok, she should be gone within the next couple of days so it saves you any uncomfortable time together.

Don't be so concerned about the fail part, you should be able to gauge within the 3 weeks if you have a shot or not.


As I say to my close friends, when they ask about dates and women.

When in doubt, whip it out. LOL Metaphorically speaking of course.


Good luck dude, if you decide to do this like i said, let me know. I'd be glad to get more in depth.

Author:  sheps [ Thu May 03, 2012 6:43 pm ]
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I'm slightly further ahead of your plan its week 1 and i'm moving into your week2 ideas already.
Told her about the dream i had last night, actually i teased her because she was frigid in the dream.
Will continue on this line tomorrow and unless we go for victory drinks (for finishing our dissertations) i was considering having no contact over the weekend unless she initiates it.
Going from flirting to a day of no contact... what do we think?

Author:  SexAddict911 [ Thu May 03, 2012 10:47 pm ]
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I'm slightly further ahead of your plan its week 1 and i'm moving into your week2 ideas already.
Told her about the dream i had last night, actually i teased her because she was frigid in the dream.
Will continue on this line tomorrow and unless we go for victory drinks (for finishing our dissertations) i was considering having no contact over the weekend unless she initiates it.
Going from flirting to a day of no contact... what do we think?
I don't really see the point of negging her or freezing her out. You are on a time constraint. follow the plan that I outlined. If you are ahead of it, that's great.

Ideally you want to start planting the seed in her, start with the sexual undertones through compliments. Show your desire to fuck her. The dream should never of been her being fridgid but completely sexually open, you are going to have to work your way out of that one. I suggest creating a new day dream off of that dream that you already mentioned. One where she is ultra sexually and alluring.

You want to make her basically a fantasy of yours, enough playing games dude. Do you want to fuck this girl or play games with her? You know her better then I do or anyone for that matter. But tell me this, has your teasing her in the past ever created any sexual energy? If you two are close enough to initiate physcial contact, then do a different type of freezing out. Try to give each other massages, but without making any moves, just get physical contact, then after continue on with being sexually suggestive with your words.

It should all be set up for the night you two spend alone with drinks. If you can fuck her earlier, then do it, you can basically keep fucking her till its time to part. But stick to the plan dude.

1. Find out how open she is sexually, ask questions....gauge her.
2. Start to plant the seed, be sexually suggestive. Sexual undertones through compliments
3. Show your desire to fuck her, make it overwhelming. ( keep the sexual energy constant.
4. Add drinks, tell her you have been fantasizing about being intimate with her. Make your move.
4.

Author:  GeorgePH [ Fri May 04, 2012 6:31 am ]
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First of all, you've got one-itis. Who are you kidding? You've built this girl up as an angel in your mind and are making excuses for it + rationalizing why it's NOT one-itis.. but really, it is. You wrote an essay about her for crying out loud. Just stop it.

Second, why are you making this so complicated? THIS IS SEX, NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

You've got nothing to lose. Come out and tell her you like her. "Hey chick. I think you're really cute. I know it's exam time, but let's go out. We'll go for a walk, feed some ducks, I'll take your mind off the exams - and if we like each other, I'll try to kiss you... Though who knows, maybe you'll just slap me :)".

Tada, it's on. You have exams to think about, don't go making a whole 3-week seduction plan for one girl. You'll just psyche yourself out and ruin everything.

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