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Author:  AnotherAFC27 [ Wed May 02, 2012 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Made my first 2 cold approaches today. Didn't go so well
Approach 1: a blonde in the library that was sitting two seats away. I noticed she was leaving and packing her stufff so I grabbed my pen and paper and sat next to her and said ' I think you are forgetting something " . She then goes " What's that " And I said " to give me your phone number " . She then goes ummm no and was shaking her head. I will be the first to admit that I was so nervous that my approach was probably awful and there were people around and they probably heard so that made the anxiety worse. I just didn't want to have any regret about not knowing so I went for it and I goofed.

Approach 2: A girl was walking in roughly the same direction so I yell " Excuse me! " I then job up to her and tell her that I need directions to building 67 ( I just made it up ) . She then goes " Oh lets look on the map " and I told her that I think she is adorable and I was just looking for an excuse to talk to her. I said " Hi my name is AFC " . I don't even t think she introduced her name to me either. We kept walking in the same direction and I asked what she was studying and if she wanted to do something and she said no thank you. She didn't bother to slow down or stop.

Its so weird because I still feel better about everything. I feel more embarrassed, but at the same time I don't feel bad. I feel good because I took a shot and missed instead of what I would normally do which is to not do anything and wonder the whole day what could have happened. So basically I am just looking for any advice you guys could give me here. Exactly how bad did I screw up with these approaches?
Author:  charblad [ Wed May 02, 2012 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Made my first 2 cold approaches today. Didn't go so well
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Approach 1: a blonde in the library that was sitting two seats away. I noticed she was leaving and packing her stufff so I grabbed my pen and paper and sat next to her and said ' I think you are forgetting something " . She then goes " What's that " And I said " to give me your phone number " . She then goes ummm no and was shaking her head.

Approach 2: A girl was walking in roughly the same direction so I yell " Excuse me! " I then job up to her and tell her that I need directions to building 67 ( I just made it up ) . She then goes " Oh lets look on the map " and I told her that I think she is adorable and I was just looking for an excuse to talk to her. I said " Hi my name is AFC " . I don't even t think she introduced her name to me either. We kept walking in the same direction and I asked what she was studying and if she wanted to do something and she said no thank you. She didn't bother to slow down or stop.
Approach 1: You basically called her a slut... you walked up and say "hey give me your number" - and unless she really is a slut you will NEVER get a yes by opening with "can i get yo number"

Approach 2: 2 options, 1 you didn't control the frame, she completely did; and 2 she might have been genuinely busy or really had a BF and doesn't fool around
Author:  mapleleaf [ Wed May 02, 2012 9:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Made my first 2 cold approaches today. Didn't go so well
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Approach 1: a blonde in the library that was sitting two seats away. I noticed she was leaving and packing her stufff so I grabbed my pen and paper and sat next to her and said ' I think you are forgetting something " . She then goes " What's that " And I said " to give me your phone number " . She then goes ummm no and was shaking her head. I will be the first to admit that I was so nervous that my approach was probably awful and there were people around and they probably heard so that made the anxiety worse. I just didn't want to have any regret about not knowing so I went for it and I goofed.

Approach 2: A girl was walking in roughly the same direction so I yell " Excuse me! " I then job up to her and tell her that I need directions to building 67 ( I just made it up ) . She then goes " Oh lets look on the map " and I told her that I think she is adorable and I was just looking for an excuse to talk to her. I said " Hi my name is AFC " . I don't even t think she introduced her name to me either. We kept walking in the same direction and I asked what she was studying and if she wanted to do something and she said no thank you. She didn't bother to slow down or stop.

Its so weird because I still feel better about everything. I feel more embarrassed, but at the same time I don't feel bad. I feel good because I took a shot and missed instead of what I would normally do which is to not do anything and wonder the whole day what could have happened. So basically I am just looking for any advice you guys could give me here. Exactly how bad did I screw up with these approaches?
How bad did you screw up? You have no idea how to pick up girls. Serioulsy, I am not even joking here. You absolutely have NO idea how PU works.
1st girl: you told her to give you her number. You made a big fool out of yourself. Basically you said I am a big idiot.
2nd girl: You called her up and then told her i think you are adorable. There you are a pervert and a creep. Next time, if you stop someone act like you really need something, and not like you are hitting on her.

If you want to hit on someone, go direct game, if not, go indirect. But, do not mix up direct with indirect.
You really need to read some PU games here. Go to youtube, type in Paul Janka pickup. He has two videos one he PU a girl on campus, and another one, on the street. Watch that for at least 10 times, and try to see what he is doing, it may seem very easy but here are many nuts and bolts to that PU. Next, watch grocery store PU by Artisan, that is direct game. Watch that again and over again. Understand that, and then apply those skills in the field.

My message may be a little harsh, but I am saying this so that you do not screw up again and make a fool out of yourself. The more you learn the lesser a fool you become. But, you need to go and practice these in-field.

Follow the FMAC system with the following
1. open up casually, like a convo
2. talk about the immediate environment
3. casually transition into her, and be interesting
4. n-close
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Thu May 03, 2012 2:51 am ]
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I'd like to say something here...

You are NOT an idiot

You went out, you tried, this is not something even guys with ripped abs try to do. Most I know don't even approach - it's a bit retarded. So ...first off: good job.

Secondly...

Approach 1: You went up and were cocky about it...and confident...but no matter how confident you are...the number is so out of the blue...so so...ridiculous. Of course you were going to get a 'no'

It has nothing to do with if the girl thinks shes a slut or not a slut. Most girls AND MOST people never give out their number just to ANY stranger...do YOU?

A good way to do this approach for direct game is this:

*Pen and paper*

Her: whats that?

Me: This..right here sweetheart...is pen and paper for when I decide I want your number...but you haven't proved you earned it yet...so ...what are you doing here anyways? Secretly reading romance novels? ;)

^ This is very direct. You showed intent, you smacked a number, and you were so deadly confident ....but this is A3 right away in Mystery. This is strong A3 (she qualifies to you). If she believes you truly don't take anyones number..this works. But if you're desperately clinging for her # its SO obvious dude...in which case you don't look confident at all in this portion of the game.
Author:  Midrange [ Thu May 03, 2012 3:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Made my first 2 cold approaches today. Didn't go so well
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You really need to read some PU games here. Go to youtube, type in Paul Janka pickup. He has two videos one he PU a girl on campus, and another one, on the street. Watch that for at least 10 times, and try to see what he is doing, it may seem very easy but here are many nuts and bolts to that PU.
damn, watching that just makes me feel worse.. ha. that must take a LONG time to develop those conversation and confidence skills. There are so many things that would go wrong with the girl on the phone for anyone trying to copy that.
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Thu May 03, 2012 5:31 am ]
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You really need to read some PU games here. Go to youtube, type in Paul Janka pickup. He has two videos one he PU a girl on campus, and another one, on the street. Watch that for at least 10 times, and try to see what he is doing, it may seem very easy but here are many nuts and bolts to that PU.
damn, watching that just makes me feel worse.. ha. that must take a LONG time to develop those conversation and confidence skills. There are so many things that would go wrong with the girl on the phone for anyone trying to copy that.

I did a pickup like this...girl was on the phone with some dude...and I told him: hey man..sorry but you missed out. She's mine now. We're going to Chuck E Cheese. Seriously. No I'm serious. You're done.

And she kept punching me saying shutupp

And I'm like it's over for him.

And she's like maybeeeee

But turns out it was her brother...

YIKES.
Author:  mapleleaf [ Thu May 03, 2012 5:44 am ]
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You really need to read some PU games here. Go to youtube, type in Paul Janka pickup. He has two videos one he PU a girl on campus, and another one, on the street. Watch that for at least 10 times, and try to see what he is doing, it may seem very easy but here are many nuts and bolts to that PU.
damn, watching that just makes me feel worse.. ha. that must take a LONG time to develop those conversation and confidence skills. There are so many things that would go wrong with the girl on the phone for anyone trying to copy that.
Here is the thing, this guy gets laid, and his PUs are smooth. Yes, it takes some confidence, it takes confidence to approach all women. But, you guys are making it a big of a deal to talk to women. They are human beings, like us. We humans are all animals. If you can pet your dog or cat, and talk to them, why can't you talk to a woman, who also happened to be an animal as well? What's the big deal here? Mindset and inner game is the issue here, Improve it and you will be fine all along. But, if anyone is trying to go for daygame, Paul Janka is recommended.
Author:  mapleleaf [ Thu May 03, 2012 5:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Made my first 2 cold approaches today. Didn't go so well
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I did a pickup like this...girl was on the phone with some dude...and I told him: hey man..sorry but you missed out. She's mine now. We're going to Chuck E Cheese. Seriously. No I'm serious. You're done.

And she kept punching me saying shutupp

And I'm like it's over for him.

And she's like maybeeeee

But turns out it was her brother...

YIKES.
But here is the thing, you assumed it was her brother, but IDK how, Janka figured it out it was her mother, which makes everything seems less awkward. I would say, instead of gaming girls on the phone, since they could be talking to anyone, why not try to game girls on the street walking by? Like here in this video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kA1-BI5V5A

His game is all about accidental meeting to PU girls, without even her knowing that she is being picked up. This as indirect is better than direct game, although Paul plays direct game as well. I would say if anyone can master indirect game, then they should go for direct one.
Author:  CaptainJackHarkness [ Thu May 03, 2012 5:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Made my first 2 cold approaches today. Didn't go so well
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I did a pickup like this...girl was on the phone with some dude...and I told him: hey man..sorry but you missed out. She's mine now. We're going to Chuck E Cheese. Seriously. No I'm serious. You're done.

And she kept punching me saying shutupp

And I'm like it's over for him.

And she's like maybeeeee

But turns out it was her brother...

YIKES.
But here is the thing, you assumed it was her brother, but IDK how, Janka figured it out it was her mother, which makes everything seems less awkward. I would say, instead of gaming girls on the phone, since they could be talking to anyone, why not try to game girls on the street walking by? Like here in this video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kA1-BI5V5A

His game is all about accidental meeting to PU girls, without even her knowing that she is being picked up. This as indirect is better than direct game, although Paul plays direct game as well. I would say if anyone can master indirect game, then they should go for direct one.
She actually mentions in the video shes talking to her mom.
Author:  mapleleaf [ Thu May 03, 2012 5:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Made my first 2 cold approaches today. Didn't go so well
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She actually mentions in the video shes talking to her mom.
Ahh, Now I noticed that. There are llike 100 differnt things going on at the same time, and PUA, we need to be aware of these things and put them together to come to n-close.
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