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Author:  MacNulty [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Sarging as a doorman, bouncer, security employee in a club
Hey guys, what's your take on that one? Apparently this Hypnotica dude from the game is doing this.

I'm a doorman on weekends and as a club employee I get some opportunities to attract some of our female customers. Mostly older women and drunk tourists to be fair. Have you got some experience or ideas?

I was thinking about using Gambler's approach of forcing IOI's as I cant aggressively game until the very end of the night.

Thanks for your advice
Author:  candybar [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sarging as a doorman, bouncer, security employee in a club
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Hey guys, what's your take on that one? Apparently this Hypnotica dude from the game is doing this.

I'm a doorman on weekends and as a club employee I get some opportunities to attract some of our female customers. Mostly older women and drunk tourists to be fair. Have you got some experience or ideas?

I was thinking about using Gambler's approach of forcing IOI's as I cant aggressively game until the very end of the night.

Thanks for your advice
I see bouncers getting girls all the time . fucking assholes :roll:

make sure you tease them while they are getting checked by you.

make some jokes while you're checking their ID's

and later during the night it's easy game from there
Author:  jurupa [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:59 am ]
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I don't work in a club, but I do security and have run into this. If I can't move from my spot I normally crack up the cockiness and teasing. Tho if I know I will be moving about later on I don't crank it up as much.
Author:  MacNulty [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:52 pm ]
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After my second night in this club I was able to flirt with a few HB's but no makeout or number so far most of the girls promised they would come back and I'm still new to this club so I didn't escalate too far.

I tease whenever I get an opportunity, but I'd like to find some cold approach material especially in the smoking area and on the dancefloor.

When girls tell me to remember them as they leave for a few minutes, I just say I don't know I think you must be trouble I'm not sure who let you in on the first place, with a smile on my face of course.

I've also tried coming to girls who had been hit on by annoying guys to tell them those guys where looking for them all over the club but it didn't really work this doesnt seem like a good opener but I'll try again a couple times to be sure.

I try to smile as much as possible unlike most of the bouncers, I dress very well I've been told I look like a lawyer or a trader but not like a doorman and used it to tease and flirt obviously. I try to stand out with my body language, as relaxed as possible and I don't cross my arms like my co-workers.

I have never used opinion openers because I usually go out with girls and easily open other sets naturally. But from now on I'll be on my own and canned material might become usuful. I can check everyone out on the dancefloor without looking creepy and spot the best sets. Now is the time to become the terminator of cold approach and practice like a maniac! So I reallly find myself looking for openers I hope you guys have got some suggestions, I'd like to go with observational openers because I dont believe in the stuff you see in Mystery Method(who lies more men or women and all that shit) it will seem weird I suppose.

I also observe what's going on in clubs and how guys fail most of the time. The most frustrating and common reason for failure (when the guys are decent not talking about annoying losers) is how guys fail to engage the whole set even though they do good with their target, and how the ugly friend will drag the HB away, something everyone knows in the community but a lot of the guys who have the balls to approach fail to understand this.


I'll keep everyone updated on this forum and hopefully I'll be able to find stuff that works in this situation and put some useful info on here!
Author:  MacNulty [ Tue May 01, 2012 4:15 am ]
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Back from work. Good result but I still made a lot of mistakes!

I was able to get a fantastic makeout session with a really cute arab girl. Her jealous brother was around so I had a lot of trouble isolating her and getting the kiss close at first. I used the "how good of a kisser are you on a scale from one to ten" routine to seal the deal. I was able to get massive IOI's by playfully waving at her and hiding behind a window in the smoking area, not something many guys would do.

Here's where I need help: she says I must be a heartless player and that I'm not worthy of any trust especially in my working environment. We exchanged numbers, but she says she wont see me since she does not want to "get hurt by a player". I replied playfully and took it as a shit test but I honestly believe she was sincere.

I tried building a time bridge and offered her to go hiking where she just moved, an area I know pretty well. I think I should call instead of texting.

How do you guys deal with it, this is so common in pickup yet I cant find much about how to deal with girls who say they are afraid to get hurt but still show a lot of interest.

Also, I really wanted to do a completly cold approach but I lacked balls at the moment of truth. Cold approach is a tough game I need to master this. I had just seen a gorgeous girl and wanted to try the "did you see the fight outside" opener but I froze. I need to fix this. I am able to approach easily when I go out with pivots and wearing peacocking items but on your own it's a whole different thing!
Author:  jurupa [ Wed May 02, 2012 12:05 am ]
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When girls tell me to remember them as they leave for a few minutes, I just say I don't know I think you must be trouble I'm not sure who let you in on the first place, with a smile on my face of course.
You can also say; why you going to cause trouble for me? if so I may have to punish you. Yes there is a sexual undertone to the line, but it is there to raise her attraction to you and to close her.
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I've also tried coming to girls who had been hit on by annoying guys to tell them those guys where looking for them all over the club but it didn't really work this doesnt seem like a good opener but I'll try again a couple times to be sure.
No to sure about this, as you are coming in more as a protector than anything else with this opener. It does seem good on paper but not in reality.
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I try to smile as much as possible unlike most of the bouncers, I dress very well I've been told I look like a lawyer or a trader but not like a doorman and used it to tease and flirt obviously. I try to stand out with my body language, as relaxed as possible and I don't cross my arms like my co-workers.
You may want to try and act like your co-workers. The reason I say this when I have acted tense or stern I had girls come up to me and say things like smile, relax etc, and when they said this I smile and reply back in kind. Works pretty well actually.
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So I reallly find myself looking for openers I hope you guys have got some suggestions,
Use your job/work place as an environment. If your work place invites or has dj's and bands come in to play bring them up as an opener. Most girls are going to be into music in some way.
Author:  jurupa [ Wed May 02, 2012 12:22 am ]
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How do you guys deal with it, this is so common in pickup yet I cant find much about how to deal with girls who say they are afraid to get hurt but still show a lot of interest.
You can either blow thru it or challenge it. By that I mean you offer to get her lunch or something and see what you are like outside of the club. I think the problem here is where you are gaming more than anything. Girls know players and what have you make clubs their feeding ground and if you don't separate your self from that you will fall into this "trap".
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Also, I really wanted to do a completly cold approach but I lacked balls at the moment of truth. Cold approach is a tough game I need to master this. I had just seen a gorgeous girl and wanted to try the "did you see the fight outside" opener but I froze. I need to fix this. I am able to approach easily when I go out with pivots and wearing peacocking items but on your own it's a whole different thing!
Cold approaches are hard, but you also work a job where you can chit chat with people. The more you chit chat with people in general, especially where you work the better off you are as you will get more comfortable at where you work socially and secondly and more importantly you get more social in general as you use to saying random things to people from talking about what ever, in turn this makes it easier for you to open up without canned openers and you be more relax so no approach anxiety.
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