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Author:  nilsso [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Approaching a 3 set as a AFC.
Hey.

First of all, Im very new(AFC) and Im just trying to start talking to people, I am ballsy(Can hold eye contact, say whatever). So just tell me what u truly think, and I will try it for sure! Btw, I am trying to cultivate a natural game.

So today I went out to talk to some people with a friend. I approached and opened with a random question:
Me: Hey, whats up guys, got a question here: If u had 1 million dollars, what would u do with it, u have until 24:00 to spend it(the clock was 23:30).
Target: I would go to a stripclub for sure!
Me: Ah, so u are that type of girl, thats funny, how about you (girl2)?
Girl2: I would go run buy a car.

Some smallchat, then i left. Was not a long set, I went back to my friend for about ~15-20 min and decided to go back in again in the same set for a direct numberclose.
Me: Hey you (strong eye-contact /w the target).
Target: Hey again!
Me: I just wanted to say, I find u alittle cute, but I am with my friend and cannot talk so I want to take ur number.
Target smiles while holding eyecontact.
Girl2: She has a boyfriend
(turningpoint? At this point I went Honesty mode, because I had this shittest thrown my way a few days ago, and I just walked off. So I decided to try something.)
Me: Tell me, how long have u been together?
Target: 3 months.
Me: Thats funny, u know my friend was in this position a few nights back and he ended up taking the girl home, the point she did not have a girlfriend. But hey! it was nice talking to you all, CYA!

What should I have done, was it the right way? I find myself in the mode of "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE!" When this kind of stuff happens, how should I have reacted?
Ive had this shit test thrown my way 3 times now, only 1 of them had the boyfriend with her. What do I do?

Thanks people!
Author:  KimPa [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:57 pm ]
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If she has a boyfriend and she doesn't want to cheat or give you her number you can't force her to. However, many times the girls will you give you their number anyway. When i get this response I say: " Oh you got me wrong, I am only interested in being friends with you because you remind of someone I used to know and we lost contact because of distance" Then instead of leaving the set, stay there for a couple of minutes and talk about something else. This will show that you are a confident person who doesn't care about her bf. You never know she might give you her number afterwards anyway.
Author:  charblad [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:46 pm ]
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Here's your real problem. You ignored her friend
Her friend didn't like you, and her opinion is higher than what the first girl has of herself. Best thing to do is have a wingman. But better yet learn how to entertain ALL of the people you're talking to. The one time ive had this happen (yet again it only happens if you screw up, I had it happen once and learned quickly) was a girl I was gamings friend got jealous and asked me "wats my (her) name?" luckily I heard it just ten seconds ago from a third person lol, but it taught me you can NEVER ignore the friend (when I said her name she was so shocked she shut up and left us alone ;) )
My example was a lot lighter and less agressive but it taught me why they really do that
Becoming friends with the girls friends is as important as gaming the girl herself. Build rapport/become friends with everyone before trying to isolate a target
Author:  RetiredRodeo [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:08 pm ]
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Here's your real problem. You ignored her friend
Her friend didn't like you, and her opinion is higher than what the first girl has of herself. Best thing to do is have a wingman. But better yet learn how to entertain ALL of the people you're talking to. The one time ive had this happen (yet again it only happens if you screw up, I had it happen once and learned quickly) was a girl I was gamings friend got jealous and asked me "wats my (her) name?" luckily I heard it just ten seconds ago from a third person lol, but it taught me you can NEVER ignore the friend (when I said her name she was so shocked she shut up and left us alone ;) )
My example was a lot lighter and less agressive but it taught me why they really do that
Becoming friends with the girls friends is as important as gaming the girl herself. Build rapport/become friends with everyone before trying to isolate a target
Fucking well said!
Author:  nilsso [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:15 pm ]
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Quote:
Here's your real problem. You ignored her friend
Her friend didn't like you, and her opinion is higher than what the first girl has of herself. Best thing to do is have a wingman. But better yet learn how to entertain ALL of the people you're talking to. The one time ive had this happen (yet again it only happens if you screw up, I had it happen once and learned quickly) was a girl I was gamings friend got jealous and asked me "wats my (her) name?" luckily I heard it just ten seconds ago from a third person lol, but it taught me you can NEVER ignore the friend (when I said her name she was so shocked she shut up and left us alone ;) )
My example was a lot lighter and less agressive but it taught me why they really do that
Becoming friends with the girls friends is as important as gaming the girl herself. Build rapport/become friends with everyone before trying to isolate a target
How about all these natural guys, they always go right in a draw the girl to them while holding strong eyecontact, referring to Tyler Durden here, he always goes hard in and pulls them in and just pushes out the friends. Here is a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYO3aHfn ... p8EfH1WrA=
go to 12:50 - ~17:00. But he also say sometimes u want to befriend the friends, but not most of the time I guess? But then again these people were ~20year olds.

Ideas people?

Thanks for all the answers.
Author:  RetiredRodeo [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:26 pm ]
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Nilsso, if that's YOUR game, run it.

I'm more the guy to keep all parties in the set interested, neg the target, do the cold-reads, analyze them, BF test, etc... with the group. I constantly guage the temperature. I'll always push-pull.

My favorites are the 3-4 sets where two are potential targets and both start competing...

But - I also know as soon as I feel the set is dying - it's really over, and I bounce. THAT is crucial to game. Once you've hit that momoent where you think it's lost - it's lost already. I've even interrupted a lady and simply said "Pardon me, I just saw a friend of mine over there..." and I walk the fuck away. Who cares? No chick is so psycho where she'll follow you and confront you later on... If she is - you made the right decision to bounce as it is...

The key is if Tyler's approach is natural for you. I don't like his teachings that much. Not MY style... but who am I to judge? If he pulls pussy, and he does, it works - for him.

Rock on.

RR
Author:  nilsso [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:55 pm ]
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I feel the same way about all the canned things to pullout in different points in the conversation. I want it natural, and not a un-natural "mystery" type thing. Can some1 help me out?
Author:  charblad [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:36 pm ]
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Quote:
How about all these natural guys, they always go right in a draw the girl to them while holding strong eyecontact, referring to Tyler Durden here, he always goes hard in and pulls them in and just pushes out the friends. Here is a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYO3aHfn ... p8EfH1WrA=
go to 12:50 - ~17:00. But he also say sometimes u want to befriend the friends, but not most of the time I guess? But then again these people were ~20year olds.

Ideas people?

Thanks for all the answers.
Like Retired said if that's your style do it, but like you said that's what natural game guys do, it's very 'ballsy' and confident and easy to screw up; and if the first girl doesn't work out what does he have to do? leave the entire group and find a completely new set; what happens if my first girl fails? i'm already halfway in her friends pants

and canned is natural if you use it right, the whole point of canned material isn't REALLY 'go out and use these exact words', it's "heres what works, find out why it works and make your own" - I don't use kino exactly how it says in most kino guides, because after reviewing them and using them i know HOW kino works and have made my own personal ladder; do this with routines
Author:  RetiredRodeo [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:33 pm ]
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[quote="charblad]and canned is natural if you use it right[/quote]

"It's only a line if she thinks it's a line..."
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