PUA Forum :: What do you think about my "no outcome" formula?

Everytime I am meeting women, or talking to them, I start getting a feeling of being with them, and dating them. But, this always does not turn out to be the case. Even sometimes, they ask me for my number, they never call, or when I call them, they never pickup. So, I designed myself a no outcome formula to keep my thoughts and mind from getting into one particular girl. Feel free to add comments and suggestions to my method.

Having no outcomes:
1. Always assume that the girl has a boyfriend.
2. Always assume that she will say no to everything, like asking to go and hang out or catch up.
3. Always assume she will not show up on dates.
4. Always assume that she will not pick up your calls.
5. Always assume she will leave you.
6. Always keep yourself busy with other things or people and other women.
7. Never be too much into any girl, but make her to be into you.
8. Make her to fall in love with you, while you remain nonchalant

Again, what do you guys think. I need to overcome my outcomes from women, so that I can be relaxed and have no shitty feelings.

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Lol, some of those are negative as hell. You can pick them out yourself...Just keep it simple. All these things will psych you out.

If that stuff works for you, great.

It looks like you're just playing the 'assume something negative and then I can't be hurt' strategy though.

Why not try for 'Assume nothing, enjoy everything' mentality? It's actually neutral. Just go into everything open minded and in the moment. A lot more fun

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Thats nice, actually I would love to enjoy my conversation with any women. I just love inteacting with women, but then the part of expectation comes in and it messes stuffs up. With my guy friends this isn't much of a problem, I don't know why it is with the girls.

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If you're anything like me it's because you've been hurt by girls in the past, so expectations, either positive or negative, carry more emotional baggage. An interaction with a guy is hardly going to carry the same weight, at least for hetero dudes.

Main way to enjoy things is to just be in the moment and don't be outcome dependent.

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I can think of this now, but as soon as after I start having fun time with a girl, and we are both laughing, I start getting a desire to be with her. What can I do? How can I remove my expectations?

Not sure about rest of them, but I always assume that she does NOT have a boyfriend. I never bring it up and if she never mentions bf I assume that she does not have him.

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I can think of this now, but as soon as after I start having fun time with a girl, and we are both laughing, I start getting a desire to be with her. What can I do? How can I remove my expectations?

Author:	mapleleaf [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:36 am ]
Post subject:	What do you think about my "no outcome" formula?
Everytime I am meeting women, or talking to them, I start getting a feeling of being with them, and dating them. But, this always does not turn out to be the case. Even sometimes, they ask me for my number, they never call, or when I call them, they never pickup. So, I designed myself a no outcome formula to keep my thoughts and mind from getting into one particular girl. Feel free to add comments and suggestions to my method. Having no outcomes: 1. Always assume that the girl has a boyfriend. 2. Always assume that she will say no to everything, like asking to go and hang out or catch up. 3. Always assume she will not show up on dates. 4. Always assume that she will not pick up your calls. 5. Always assume she will leave you. 6. Always keep yourself busy with other things or people and other women. 7. Never be too much into any girl, but make her to be into you. 8. Make her to fall in love with you, while you remain nonchalant Again, what do you guys think. I need to overcome my outcomes from women, so that I can be relaxed and have no shitty feelings.

Author:	Mr. Assertive [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: What do you think about my "no outcome" formula?
Quote: Everytime I am meeting women, or talking to them, I start getting a feeling of being with them, and dating them. But, this always does not turn out to be the case. Even sometimes, they ask me for my number, they never call, or when I call them, they never pickup. So, I designed myself a no outcome formula to keep my thoughts and mind from getting into one particular girl. Feel free to add comments and suggestions to my method. Having no outcomes: 1. Always assume that the girl has a boyfriend. 2. Always assume that she will say no to everything, like asking to go and hang out or catch up. 3. Always assume she will not show up on dates. 4. Always assume that she will not pick up your calls. 5. Always assume she will leave you. 6. Always keep yourself busy with other things or people and other women. 7. Never be too much into any girl, but make her to be into you. 8. Make her to fall in love with you, while you remain nonchalant Again, what do you guys think. I need to overcome my outcomes from women, so that I can be relaxed and have no shitty feelings. Lol, some of those are negative as hell. You can pick them out yourself...Just keep it simple. All these things will psych you out.

Author:	mapleleaf [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:01 am ]
Post subject:	Re: What do you think about my "no outcome" formula?
Quote: Quote: Everytime I am meeting women, or talking to them, I start getting a feeling of being with them, and dating them. But, this always does not turn out to be the case. Even sometimes, they ask me for my number, they never call, or when I call them, they never pickup. So, I designed myself a no outcome formula to keep my thoughts and mind from getting into one particular girl. Feel free to add comments and suggestions to my method. Having no outcomes: 1. Always assume that the girl has a boyfriend. 2. Always assume that she will say no to everything, like asking to go and hang out or catch up. 3. Always assume she will not show up on dates. 4. Always assume that she will not pick up your calls. 5. Always assume she will leave you. 6. Always keep yourself busy with other things or people and other women. 7. Never be too much into any girl, but make her to be into you. 8. Make her to fall in love with you, while you remain nonchalant Again, what do you guys think. I need to overcome my outcomes from women, so that I can be relaxed and have no shitty feelings. Lol, some of those are negative as hell. You can pick them out yourself...Just keep it simple. All these things will psych you out. Yah, some of those things are negative, but I am working on to remove any detachment or expectation during my interaction with any women.

Author:	Lockdown [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:29 am ]
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If that stuff works for you, great. It looks like you're just playing the 'assume something negative and then I can't be hurt' strategy though. Why not try for 'Assume nothing, enjoy everything' mentality? It's actually neutral. Just go into everything open minded and in the moment. A lot more fun

Author:	mapleleaf [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:34 am ]
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Quote: If that stuff works for you, great. It looks like you're just playing the 'assume something negative and then I can't be hurt' strategy though. Why not try for 'Assume nothing, enjoy everything' mentality? It's actually neutral. Just go into everything open minded and in the moment. A lot more fun Thats nice, actually I would love to enjoy my conversation with any women. I just love inteacting with women, but then the part of expectation comes in and it messes stuffs up. With my guy friends this isn't much of a problem, I don't know why it is with the girls.

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Author:	Lockdown [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:37 am ]
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Quote: Quote: If that stuff works for you, great. It looks like you're just playing the 'assume something negative and then I can't be hurt' strategy though. Why not try for 'Assume nothing, enjoy everything' mentality? It's actually neutral. Just go into everything open minded and in the moment. A lot more fun Thats nice, actually I would love to enjoy my conversation with any women. I just love inteacting with women, but then the part of expectation comes in and it messes stuffs up. With my guy friends this isn't much of a problem, I don't know why it is with the girls. If you're anything like me it's because you've been hurt by girls in the past, so expectations, either positive or negative, carry more emotional baggage. An interaction with a guy is hardly going to carry the same weight, at least for hetero dudes. Main way to enjoy things is to just be in the moment and don't be outcome dependent.

Author:	mapleleaf [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:25 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: If that stuff works for you, great. It looks like you're just playing the 'assume something negative and then I can't be hurt' strategy though. Why not try for 'Assume nothing, enjoy everything' mentality? It's actually neutral. Just go into everything open minded and in the moment. A lot more fun Thats nice, actually I would love to enjoy my conversation with any women. I just love inteacting with women, but then the part of expectation comes in and it messes stuffs up. With my guy friends this isn't much of a problem, I don't know why it is with the girls. If you're anything like me it's because you've been hurt by girls in the past, so expectations, either positive or negative, carry more emotional baggage. An interaction with a guy is hardly going to carry the same weight, at least for hetero dudes. Main way to enjoy things is to just be in the moment and don't be outcome dependent. I can think of this now, but as soon as after I start having fun time with a girl, and we are both laughing, I start getting a desire to be with her. What can I do? How can I remove my expectations?

Author:	Mr. Assertive [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:19 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Thats nice, actually I would love to enjoy my conversation with any women. I just love inteacting with women, but then the part of expectation comes in and it messes stuffs up. With my guy friends this isn't much of a problem, I don't know why it is with the girls. If you're anything like me it's because you've been hurt by girls in the past, so expectations, either positive or negative, carry more emotional baggage. An interaction with a guy is hardly going to carry the same weight, at least for hetero dudes. Main way to enjoy things is to just be in the moment and don't be outcome dependent. I can think of this now, but as soon as after I start having fun time with a girl, and we are both laughing, I start getting a desire to be with her. What can I do? How can I remove my expectations? Just live in the moment. That desire will help you more than anything.

Author:	silverito [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:13 am ]
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Not sure about rest of them, but I always assume that she does NOT have a boyfriend. I never bring it up and if she never mentions bf I assume that she does not have him.

Author:	silverito [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:15 am ]
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Not sure about rest of them, but I always assume that she does NOT have a boyfriend. I never bring it up and if she never mentions bf I assume that she does not have him.

Author:	mapleleaf [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:05 am ]
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Quote: Not sure about rest of them, but I always assume that she does NOT have a boyfriend. I never bring it up and if she never mentions bf I assume that she does not have him. Yah, thats probably a better way of thinking. This way, I can be interested in that girl, and play my game right. Otherwise, I probably won't be able to do much if she has one. I will go and change it now.

Author:	Lockdown [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:08 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Thats nice, actually I would love to enjoy my conversation with any women. I just love inteacting with women, but then the part of expectation comes in and it messes stuffs up. With my guy friends this isn't much of a problem, I don't know why it is with the girls. If you're anything like me it's because you've been hurt by girls in the past, so expectations, either positive or negative, carry more emotional baggage. An interaction with a guy is hardly going to carry the same weight, at least for hetero dudes. Main way to enjoy things is to just be in the moment and don't be outcome dependent. I can think of this now, but as soon as after I start having fun time with a girl, and we are both laughing, I start getting a desire to be with her. What can I do? How can I remove my expectations? Enjoy the desire, act on it, just don't emotionally invest in any given outcome. Reframe your idea of what is important from the 'outcome' to the 'journey' so to speak.

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