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Author:  Frecks [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:12 am ]
Post subject:  "I'm a MFZ'er" and "should I be that guy?"

I don't escalate fast enough. I am disgracefully a Master Friend Zoner... If you want to call it that. I've been trying it all. From kino to different lines to negging to different styles of game. I have basically gotten over my approach anxiety and have a relative confidence to borderline anyone I approach. Are there any tips I should take or that any one can offer me to take it to another level?

Next scenario / story:

I just happened to befriend some Europeans that are in town for the summer. I never wanted anything to become of it except for some party friends and maybe a pick-up or two if possible. So I befriend all of them and we go out most weekends an have fun.
This past weekend, one of the Europeans in particular was clinging to me like mad crazy. I didn't even game on her. SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND BACK HOME...We were dancing the whole night (our entire group) and she kept coming to me. Obviously, she was pretty wasted and sooner than later, she's getting touchy feely with me...more than the average grinding...
I'm gonna say this clearly, I've been cheated on. It's a shit feeling and I will never project that situation to anyone again.
So I'm asking, should I be that guy? We continued dancing and I didn't really "avoid" her. I just disarmed her so to speak but she kept running back. I've never been in this kind of situation before and though it does feel good to be wanted, I can't see myself throwing down on some dudes girl.

Author:  Lockdown [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:18 am ]
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That's something you've got to decide for yourself. I know that's no help but it's a personal decision.

My own view is if she's initiating it then you didn't exactly lead her astray, she was clearly looking for something, all you're doing is providing it :twisted:

Author:  Don Horneone [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:35 pm ]
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I think it's admirable that you even give a fuck, to be honest. I have a friend who was cheated on by his girl and HIS BEST FRIEND and that's the nightmare scenario. However, you don't know this guy. You're not betraying HIM - she is, and that's her problem, frankly.

Like the last poster said though, it's your call. If in doubt, flip a coin and keep flipping till you reach an outcome you like - always works for me 8)

Author:  Frecks [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:53 am ]
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So you both see my dilemma. I appreciate the kind words gents.

The way I look at it, I was cheated on and it's a lot of peoples faults. In a sense, you could say it's my own. I moved away and didn't think it would work out past 4 months. The way she cheated though...She was piss drunk (just like the European that was flaunting with me), passed out on someones bed, a dude came in woke her up and they went at it. She called, we talked, I told her that would never happen again and I swore to myself that I would never do what she did to me.

We'll see how this plays out. I admire and respect this girl. But, it could be just another friend zone status...I don't mind them but, it's getting old.

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