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| Author: | Eternal-Water [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The reason girls like bad guys and also complain about them |
Just my theory, see what you think of it and weather you believe it. Okay, I am coming at this from the evolutionary approach. Males can have as many offspring as they want, they can potentially be getting 5+ females pregnant per day, whereas a female can fall pregnant like once every 9 months. So the potential for offspring in females is dramatically reduced. Wired into the human DNA is the drive to continue the survival of the species and wired into female DNA is the drive to have offspring off thier own and for their own offspring to be better suited to survival than the offspring of others. Therefore females don't just bag the first male on offer, they wait and choose the male they think has the traits that best serve the purpose of survival or in other words the male with the strongest DNA. Today mothers often tell their kids to look after themselves first before worrying about others, they drill the "look after number 1" message into their kids - this helps them survive. However when we think about people in general, not relatives, just ordinary people we are all for equality, fareplay, kindess and being decent, but when it comes to your own kids you want them to make sure they are okay before worrying about others. Bad boys have this trait, they care about themselves and not others, this is a trait females wish for their offspring to have so that their offspring can survive - therefore the female mind "falls for the badboy". Badboys also have other traits that help them survive etc being physically fit etc. the females want their offspring to be physically fit so they like this trait - this lead to them liking guys with muscles etc. So for these reasons they fall for the badboy, they want their kids to have the same advantages as the badboy, even if they don't know it by which I mean its subconsious. The badboy treats them badly, they don't like that particular part and so complain about it, thats where their DNA backfires on them a bit. But they put up with the badboy treating them like dirt because it will help their kids in survival. This also explains the modern obsession with vampires, especially the sparkly ones, they are the very essence of strong DNA and survival traits - if their offspring were invincible and immortal their offspring would survive for ever, so their DNA tells them to like vampires unaware that they don't exist. Also the reason females are attracted to guys they see with other females: if other females have accepted them, then that means they must have the traits needed for offspring to prosper and many different females have seen these trends in him which means he has very strong DNA for thier own offspring. Also the prettier the females the stronger his DNA must be to be accpeted by them. what do you think of this theory? |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:48 pm ] |
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Masculinity and dominance. This scientific research might help you polish your theory some more, http://www.putslab.psu.edu/pdfs/Puts_11 ... orgasm.pdf It's about the bad boy's capability to give women orgasms. |
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| Author: | titanman [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:15 pm ] |
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You don't have to be a bad boy to have these traits. The 3 things bad boys have that women want: -confidence -typically sexual -dominating/in charge Any guy can have those traits. Any guy. It's not about being a bad boy, it's about being sexual and not a pussy. I only know of one true guy who I think is natural at all of this when I look at him. He's probably never even thought about it, it's just so natural. A lot of people thought he was gay actually, including myself, because he was always with women and touching them. It was only when I got to PUA and read up to natural game that I realised he was a living legend. He's such a nice guy too but is sexual, escaltes with kino, very confident and in control. But as I said, I real pleasure to be around. He regularly takes home hot chicks. And I do mean hot, one looked like the Pandora jewellery model on the UK tv ad that was on over Xmas. This bad boy shit is a load of crap, I've left high-school and I see what happens to bad boys. Prison, Jeremy Kyle show, underaged girlfriends or they actually change as people and become more pleasant. The later being the case with quite a few. |
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| Author: | asesino [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:36 pm ] |
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there is at least one major flaw in your theory. An individual's self-preservation method would entail being part of a group. There's a lot of truth the old age "there's safety in numbers". Caring about one's self would not confer any reproductive OR survival advantage simply because if anything happened happened to the caregiver the offspring would have little if any chance at survival. You should read Richard Dawkin's the Selfish Gene. The short of it is we tend to favor (have a bias) towards those who are of our likeness, and there's a distinct reason for this; by helping others who share similar clusters of phenotypic traits, we are in some sense ensuring our genes, or at least similar gene clusters are perpetuated ad infinitum. "Bad boy" types, if there even is one would probably embody traits such as risk-taking (low-inpulse control), spontaneity, and their non-chalant seemingly unattached attitude confers that high value in the sense that they may have other options. While high-risk taking behaviors can lead to serious risk resulting in loss of status, and even death, they can also lead to huge payoff. In the PUA circle, "Bad boy" types are unpredictable and keep the woman guessing. Unfortunately many guys believe it is being an asshole, or showing indifference which gets the woman; ultimately it is this type of bad boy a woman grows tired of and leaves. If you can embrace the mystique, the spontaneouty and excitement that the bad boy offers, without the asshole bit, you'll be something to be desired. |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:00 pm ] |
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Asesino has some good points. Human genes barely changed for the past thousands of years. However, human memes (this is Dawkins' term for the building blocks of knowledge and the rapid evolution of human knowledge through alphabets, numbers, print, video, internet and so on) have a more profound impact on human sexuality and courtship. How females react to the bad boy is also partly a socially learned behavior. Albert Bandura's social learning theory best explains this. Basically, the Twilight series is a meme that promotes the sexual attractiveness of the bad boy some more.
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| Author: | asesino [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:21 pm ] |
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Quite honestly we are all self-serving, even altruism is a misnomer as it is associated with some sort of survival and reproductive advantage on some level. Perhaps we donate to maintain a self-image, or self-concept of "I am a generous person!" or to do so to win favor with others. The point is self-preservation is an all-important facet of our being. Being brought into the world as tiny, defenseless being we rely on the help of the external world to give us sustenance and to help us beat the odds and at very least survive long enough to pass our genes down. The theory, however isn't so simple as how would one explain homosexuality and the existence of psychopathy and sociopathy, among other 'mental disorders' which run in families. The Psychopath, or Sociopath (some theorists dub them as one and the same) are the 'cheaters' of society. It sounds to me like that's the type of bad boy you are describing. These individuals are able to pass themselves off often as charismatic, charming, and highly personable individuals while using their cunning to secure access to greater resources. The kind of self-serving traits can be very beneficial under circumstances, but again the cost of being caught is far too great and would explain why such individuals are relative outliers within populations (approx 1% for psychopaths, maybe a bit more for sociopaths; keep in mind that many researchers estimate that the majority of prison populations represent an extremely high population of antisocial personality disordered individuals). Moreover, Bad Boy types who are notorious for being unpredictable would serve as a cost for female to maximize the survival of her genetic lineage as in all likelihood he'd be out 'planting his seed' rather than tending to his duties as caregiver. Interestingly, there seems to be a preference for mate unpredictability for short-term mates, and a general preference for mate predictability for long-term mate selection strategies. |
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| Author: | CanYouTango [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | other things |
There are other things that are more important. Being a Bad Boy is just one of like 30 attraction triggers. That means there are a loooot of other ways to make her attracted to you. |
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| Author: | asesino [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: other things |
Quote: There are other things that are more important. Being a Bad Boy is just one of like 30 attraction triggers. That means there are a loooot of other ways to make her attracted to you.
I don't think it's being a "bad boy" per se but rather identifying qualities of the bad boy which make him alluring. Hint, it has nothing to do with being an a*shole.
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| Author: | CanYouTango [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: other things |
Quote: Quote: There are other things that are more important. Being a Bad Boy is just one of like 30 attraction triggers. That means there are a loooot of other ways to make her attracted to you.
I don't think it's being a "bad boy" per se but rather identifying qualities of the bad boy which make him alluring. Hint, it has nothing to do with being an a*shole. |
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