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Author:  mapleleaf [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Any ideas on improving conversational skills?
Last week I met a girl in my class, and I was talking to her, for a minute. I asked her what is her major. In reply, she mentioned, nursing. Then I ran out of things to say. I did not have AA, but sometimes it happens with guys too. I ran out of things to say. What could I have said at that time.

Right now, my biggest problem is to have an actual conversation with women, again its not AA, but what to say when you run out of things?

Any kind of help is appreciated.
Author:  Little Panda [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:40 pm ]
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You're thinking too mechanically on what to say, so whenever you have a conversation with a girl, your mind is telling you "Hm, what is the LOGICAL think to reply with?" - leaving you very limited and linear.

You can't enjoy in having a conversation with a girl unless you feel the interest from within. Take genuine interest in a woman and the questions/conversation will flow much easier. This all comes with practice.
Author:  titanman [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:34 pm ]
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Practice. That's it. Nothing else. We can tell you how to ride a bike, but you have to figure it out yourself.
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:29 pm ]
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You'll need to shift out of interview mode into wide rapport mode.

This is interview mode:
  • "What's your name?"
    "Where do you live?"
    "How old are you?"
    "What's your dad's name?" "Your mom's name?"
    "Where's your hometown?"
Wide rapport uses topics from observable things, events or emotions within your environment. These topics can include, the girl's earrings, the book she has, the way the professor talks, two birds flying together, and so on.

Another key to wide rapport is to bounce from one topic to the next using the girl's cues. Wide rapport building techniques also use a lot of statements rather than questions.

This is wide rapport mode:
  • Topic 1: "Nice earrings. They look expensive. I went to the mall another day with Grace and Suzie and I can tell that this is classy stuff." Proceed to touch the earrings and kino her ear.

    Her: "Oh really? Thanks. Blah, blah, blah. So what were you doing at the mall with Grace and Suzie?"

    Topic 2: "I'll tell you later. Oh, lookit. That pigeon is badass. Did you see that?" Tap her shoulder and point to the sky.

    Her: "What? Where?"

    Topic 3: "Grace told me that she caught her boyfriend getting text messages from another girl. They were on a date and her bf can't give his full attention. What's your opinion about these things? Do you think it's some kind of betrayal or is this really rude?"

    Her: "Well, blah, blah, blah."

    Topic 4: Place your palm on top of her hand. "Oh. I think you are pretty smart and open minded on a lot of things. Are you always this way since you were a kid?" Accept and qualify her so you bait for compliance.

    Her: "Blah, blah, blah..."
You get the drift. :twisted:
Author:  mapleleaf [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:24 am ]
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Place your palm on top of her hand. "Oh. I think you are pretty smart and open minded on a lot of things. Are you always this way since you were a kid?" Accept and qualify her so you bait for compliance.

:twisted:
You gave me a very good way to start and continue a conversation with a girl. I am going to use everything you mentioned here starting next week. But placing my palm on top of her hand, the very first day, doesnt sound so good. Did you mean to do that after we had our interaction. The idea here is to give her a comfortable and friendly SPAM so that she can open up to me. I want her to feel comfortable and not creepy with me. Let me know what's right.
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:07 am ]
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First of all, adapt the conversation to the situation. What you've read is just an example on how wide rapport is executed. Wide rapport routine is not about the sample content but about the topical content around your environment.

Second, a wide rapport routine has a kino or nonverbal aspect into it. If you're not comfortable with the kino, pull away your hand in a fraction of a second. To execute wide rapport with both the verbal and nonverbal aspects, you'll need a rhythm to keep the interaction exciting and memorable for the girl. Here is a sample kino rapport routine with an up and down rhythm, kiss-close-question-vt132796.html

Adjust to your situation and comfort but understand the principle behind the rhythm. Rhythm creates excitement, anticipation, frustration, and a whole soup of emotions as you're executing your verbal and kino rapport. Remember, women are attracted most to emotions while men are attracted most to the boobies and nice ass. :twisted:
Author:  mapleleaf [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:40 am ]
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First of all, adapt the conversation to the situation. What you've read is just an example on how wide rapport is executed. Wide rapport routine is not about the sample content but about the topical content around your environment.

Second, a wide rapport routine has a kino or nonverbal aspect into it. If you're not comfortable with the kino, pull away your hand in a fraction of a second. To execute wide rapport with both the verbal and nonverbal aspects, you'll need a rhythm to keep the interaction exciting and memorable for the girl. Here is a sample kino rapport routine with an up and down rhythm, kiss-close-question-vt132796.html

Adjust to your situation and comfort but understand the principle behind the rhythm. Rhythm creates excitement, anticipation, frustration, and a whole soup of emotions as you're executing your verbal and kino rapport. Remember, women are attracted most to emotions while men are attracted most to the boobies and nice ass. :twisted:
Everything makes sense now. But, when should I start incorporating this with the girl. Starting past two weeks, I had been going to several events, college clubs, and meeting women in class. But, I don't know when to actually smoothly escalate into a friendly conversation. Is it at the second or third meeting, or after couple of weeks when we know each other a little?
Author:  glazecase [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:02 am ]
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[I don't know when to actually smoothly escalate into a friendly conversation. Is it at the second or third meeting, or after couple of weeks when we know each other a little?

I think you can apply these rapport as soon as you get the sign. Sometimes she may not give any sign but it's your duty to trick her into it. When you see the chance, jump on it! I think some signs are, deep eye contact, if she kino you, or even sign of flirting!

Good luck!

-Jax
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:13 am ]
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This is Point B with variations for your direct game approach. You execute Point B right after Point A. If you execute Point B well, then you can transition to Point C. Also, understand the concept of the bail out well. Since you see the girl often, then the bail out is more effective than the False Time Constraint.

For a review on the process steps, here: 3-vt132114.html?start=30 :twisted:
Author:  kasabi [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:13 am ]
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Stop wasting your time with endless chatter. You're going blank because you WANT to ask the girl out, kiss her, and bang her. Yet, you're trying to dream up random topics to fill up conversation time. Instead, segway every conversation topic towards a fun event. Get her to say, "That sounds like fun." Follow up with, "Let's go." Exchange contact information. . . ahhh. . . doesn't that feel much better?

Once you unload your brain of what you REALLY WANT TO EXPRESS, then it will be free to discuss mundane crap. It's only difficult for you to come up with random topics because you're artificially withholding your primary objectives. It's as if you have a funny joke that you want to unload on your buddies and everybody's just chatting away. You want to say the joke and it's on the top of your mind but you can't unload it for the moment. How easily can you follow other conversation topics or come up with different ideas in this situation? Just unload it. . .
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:26 am ]
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LOL. If you want to save time, follow Stelar's method or vicparkguy83's method. If you want to build deep emotional connections for a long term relationship, then give the girl the best emotional experiences that she could have with you. The best emotional experiences are not necessarily the most spectacular. It could be eating a cotton candy together or sharing an umbrella while it rained while you and the girl are talking about pigeons, the blue skies, then your dreams, and so on.

Men want to save time to get to the pussy. Women want the emotional roller coaster ride first before they give their pussy. Make no mistake about it. :twisted:
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