PUA Forum :: Eye Contact

Sorry if you misunderstood me, I meant when you are holding eye contact with a female YOU can try putting a smile to see if she reacts with an ioi (smiles back and drop her eyes down in a submissive way is a fairly common IOI).

even if your don't feel like smiling just approach. what could go wrong? not trying is worse than failure.

You shouldn't really overthink the subject, just open her verbally and see how it goes. be a man.

-Oxy

When I was in first year high school, I always felt my balls in my throat when face-to-face with a beautiful girl. I also have this embarrassing hard-on every time. But I didn't feel the same way with the uglies.

I got over this funny feeling by chain smoking cigarettes and cannabis, and drinking hard liquor whenever I go to school. This eased the funny feeling a bit and got to date college girls to the movies by my second year in high school. However, the best technique that I've learned to conquer this fear of beautiful women is to imagine these girls taking a shit in the toilet after drinking a gallon of milk or after eating too much beef with the corresponding faces of torture.

Works for me, it might work fer yah.

I know the library environment makes it a lot difficult to approach girls but the way i do it makes it easier for me. What you need to know is that usually eye contact for more 3 seconds is an IOI but to confirm that you need to smile and if she smiles back then you're in. Obviously you're not gona get up and go straight to her to start a convo because that will just make you look like an idiot lol. So the way i do it is by taking time and chances. If you know where she's sitting then after 20 mins go and sit next to her and say 'sorry if i didn't smile back at you and looked as if i was givin dirty looks, just too much work' instant girls response, 'haha no it's fine i understand, im the same bla bla bla' convo started. Then just take it from there and say 'i thought id take some break, so LET'S GO grab a cold drink'
Play it right and don't be nervous and they will come with you..

100% disagree. In this case I would do exactly that. Girls love that, I find it out later in relationship/conversation. They say "wow you were so bold by coming to me that way". Not a single one thought I was an idiot, not even close.

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Well if a girl smiles at you and you get and talk to her then you've chased her straight away so that will just make them think oh this guys wants me! For that reason i don't go to them straight away!

Author:	shookie [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:20 pm ]
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Hey guys, So here is a background to my upcoming question: I go to Uni, and I usually study in the library or any other quiet room. Now, there are many beautiful girls coming in and out of the library, and every time someone walks by where I'm sitting I instinctively look up at who is passing. Sometimes they won't notice, and sometimes they'll be looking at me and keep eye contact. Many times they walk buy a few moments later and I look up again and again I see the same girl looking at me. Sometimes it's with the same girl that goes to the same class as I do, and each time I look at her she automatically looks at me. Thing is, I've noticed it in the past few days, and it was mostly with really attractive girls. I'm not sure whether this is just a human trait of looking around and once in a while catching someone's gaze or if it's more than that....... I'd like to know what you guys think about this. Cheers, Shookie.

Author:	Oxy [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:27 pm ]
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maintain eye contact and put a sexy smile on. it's a great non verbal opener. if she smiles back or giving any other ioi just go up and introduce yourself. pretty easy. -Oxy

Author:	shookie [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:39 pm ]
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It was never accompanied with a smile or anything of that sort. It was just holding eye contact. For instance, today this one girl was walking towards me and we just held eye contact until she passed. Is this an IOI then?

Author:	Oxy [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:10 pm ]
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Sorry if you misunderstood me, I meant when you are holding eye contact with a female YOU can try putting a smile to see if she reacts with an ioi (smiles back and drop her eyes down in a submissive way is a fairly common IOI). even if your don't feel like smiling just approach. what could go wrong? not trying is worse than failure. You shouldn't really overthink the subject, just open her verbally and see how it goes. be a man. -Oxy

Author:	Jav [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:12 pm ]
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Shookie, try winking.

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Author:	shookie [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:27 pm ]
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Quote: Sorry if you misunderstood me, I meant when you are holding eye contact with a female YOU can try putting a smile to see if she reacts with an ioi (smiles back and drop her eyes down in a submissive way is a fairly common IOI). even if your don't feel like smiling just approach. what could go wrong? not trying is worse than failure. You shouldn't really overthink the subject, just open her verbally and see how it goes. be a man. -Oxy I am not sure I have it in me to do that.... Can't really do those things around attractive women. Plus, I wouldn't know how to verbally approach.... In no scenario that I imagine is that looking natural. And saying "hi" doesn't count as opening for me SPAM :p

Author:	AmazingArt [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:41 pm ]
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See if they touch their hair after they look at you. But it really makes no difference. The girl usually decides if she likes you within the first few seconds of your first interaction. Don't be afraid of what she will say. The worst thing that will happen is she will say I have to go. Life is short so don't say I will do it later cause there might not be later. Good luck! - Amazing Art -

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:42 pm ]
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Biologically speaking, girls will bait guys through IOIs unconsciously so guys will reveal their sexual intent and then girls will disqualify guys. So much research has already been done on this. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11146304 Good looks will get your foot in the door but you will still be disqualified based on your personality. IOIs only become a sure thing after the first 4 minutes of your interaction with a girl and way into the 10-minute mark. Generally, No interaction = No attraction Unless you are Justin Bieber who can emotionally connect with many girls through his songs and YouTube videos, don't put too much on those "IOIs". They don't mean a thing without significant interaction.

Author:	shookie [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:56 pm ]
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Even though I've asked this a few times, I guess another few can't hurt: I can't bring myself to "get out of my comfort zones" \ Walk up to any one of those girls and say anything. What can I do so those things won't happen?

Author:	shookie [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:23 pm ]
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Quote: When I was in first year high school, I always felt my balls in my throat when face-to-face with a beautiful girl. I also have this embarrassing hard-on every time. But I didn't feel the same way with the uglies. I got over this funny feeling by chain smoking cigarettes and cannabis, and drinking hard liquor whenever I go to school. This eased the funny feeling a bit and got to date college girls to the movies by my second year in high school. However, the best technique that I've learned to conquer this fear of beautiful women is to imagine these girls taking a shit in the toilet after drinking a gallon of milk or after eating too much beef with the corresponding faces of torture. Works for me, it might work fer yah. Haha. I am actually considering starting to drink to "loosen up". What I mean is this: I don't like alcohol. I don't like it's taste (beer, vodka, whisky etc) nor the effects it has on people. I am generally against the current society's need to feel good by loosing control. Nevertheless, if it might help me, should I give it a try? What do you guys think? I also liked your idea of imagining them shitting on the toilet. Although, I'm not sure that'd be effective in my current state. If she's as beautiful as some of the girls I'm talking about, that's not enough.

Author:	Costa-T [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:55 pm ]
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I know the library environment makes it a lot difficult to approach girls but the way i do it makes it easier for me. What you need to know is that usually eye contact for more 3 seconds is an IOI but to confirm that you need to smile and if she smiles back then you're in. Obviously you're not gona get up and go straight to her to start a convo because that will just make you look like an idiot lol. So the way i do it is by taking time and chances. If you know where she's sitting then after 20 mins go and sit next to her and say 'sorry if i didn't smile back at you and looked as if i was givin dirty looks, just too much work' instant girls response, 'haha no it's fine i understand, im the same bla bla bla' convo started. Then just take it from there and say 'i thought id take some break, so LET'S GO grab a cold drink' Play it right and don't be nervous and they will come with you..

Author:	silverito [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:43 pm ]
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Quote: I know the library environment makes it a lot difficult to approach girls but the way i do it makes it easier for me. What you need to know is that usually eye contact for more 3 seconds is an IOI but to confirm that you need to smile and if she smiles back then you're in. Obviously you're not gona get up and go straight to her to start a convo because that will just make you look like an idiot lol. So the way i do it is by taking time and chances. If you know where she's sitting then after 20 mins go and sit next to her and say 'sorry if i didn't smile back at you and looked as if i was givin dirty looks, just too much work' instant girls response, 'haha no it's fine i understand, im the same bla bla bla' convo started. Then just take it from there and say 'i thought id take some break, so LET'S GO grab a cold drink' Play it right and don't be nervous and they will come with you.. 100% disagree. In this case I would do exactly that. Girls love that, I find it out later in relationship/conversation. They say "wow you were so bold by coming to me that way". Not a single one thought I was an idiot, not even close.

Author:	Costa-T [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:33 pm ]
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Quote: 100% disagree. In this case I would do exactly that. Girls love that, I find it out later in relationship/conversation. They say "wow you were so bold by coming to me that way". Not a single one thought I was an idiot, not even close. Well if a girl smiles at you and you get and talk to her then you've chased her straight away so that will just make them think oh this guys wants me! For that reason i don't go to them straight away!

Author:	silverito [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:07 am ]
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Quote: Quote: 100% disagree. In this case I would do exactly that. Girls love that, I find it out later in relationship/conversation. They say "wow you were so bold by coming to me that way". Not a single one thought I was an idiot, not even close. Well if a girl smiles at you and you get and talk to her then you've chased her straight away so that will just make them think oh this guys wants me! For that reason i don't go to them straight away! And if you do not go straight away but rather later then she will not think you want her? )

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