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I tested out a bunch of canned routines, openers and kino two nights in a row and they worked perfect. First night I got 2 K-closes and 2 number closes, next night I got 2 number closes, and brought one girl back to my apartment.
While we were making out on my bed, I tried taking her underwear off but she said she didn't want to do it because "she just met me". At the time I didn't think, but if she decided to come home with me and spend the night, doesn't that automatically mean she wants to have sex? I responded sounding like it wasn't a big deal and just continued to make out, and that's how the night just ended. What should have I done differently? I have her number and I texted her, but she doesn't seem eager to text back or come visit me. Should I just leave her alone or keep texting her to try to get her interested in me like that night?
Second question is, while I am improving in night game a lot, my day game sucks and I have a lot of approach anxiety. What are some ways to combat this and what kind of routines can I use during the day?
thanks

to your first point, you'll find alot of good women will push you away, it's natural. They don't want to be seen as an easy slut and she has just met you... If a girl does that again use AFC Adam's countdown method, say 'Okay, if you want me to stop, stay stop within the count of 5' then carry on but slowly, if she doesnt say stop then it's okay, if she does then respect her wishes, you'll be the gent.

What canned Routines?

Not enough push-pull at the right time Bro, Back off, then full steam, then back off! That way it's not her "fault" it just sorta happened! Yes her intention was to have sex, she just did not want to feel slutty! You should have tried the pantie tug again!

Don't text her for a while, she will likely text you back in a few days, if not. Look up my "Text routine for weekend slump" It's a good day game after a number close!

do you mean while we were in bed, or at a place where I met her?

so i've been texting the same girl and she has responded positively but yet i don't think she wants to have intimate relationship because she isn't eager to see me again. Gonna wait for the weekend, in the mean time I want to just come straight forward and ask her what she thinks about me? is that a good idea? should I tell her that we should be friends, so I don't look needy?

Thanks for the advice. Honestly, I was gonna go out on the weekend anyway and try to meet more girls but in the mean time it's just awkward because I don't know the exact status with this girl.

Author:	tay [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:31 pm ]
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I tested out a bunch of canned routines, openers and kino two nights in a row and they worked perfect. First night I got 2 K-closes and 2 number closes, next night I got 2 number closes, and brought one girl back to my apartment. While we were making out on my bed, I tried taking her underwear off but she said she didn't want to do it because "she just met me". At the time I didn't think, but if she decided to come home with me and spend the night, doesn't that automatically mean she wants to have sex? I responded sounding like it wasn't a big deal and just continued to make out, and that's how the night just ended. What should have I done differently? I have her number and I texted her, but she doesn't seem eager to text back or come visit me. Should I just leave her alone or keep texting her to try to get her interested in me like that night? Second question is, while I am improving in night game a lot, my day game sucks and I have a lot of approach anxiety. What are some ways to combat this and what kind of routines can I use during the day? thanks

Author:	Danage [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:56 pm ]
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to your first point, you'll find alot of good women will push you away, it's natural. They don't want to be seen as an easy slut and she has just met you... If a girl does that again use AFC Adam's countdown method, say 'Okay, if you want me to stop, stay stop within the count of 5' then carry on but slowly, if she doesnt say stop then it's okay, if she does then respect her wishes, you'll be the gent. As for Day game i've been where you are. I started on night game and I got the closes and the numbers and whatever, it does become boring after a while and you have more of a chance during the day. It feels more special during the day too. I am no master of Day game at the moment but i've started to work on it by a couple of little tricks. I found I was going to starbucks in my city center alot, so when I decided I wanted to perfect my day game I started to have conversations with the staff, I know all of their names, their hobbies and their interests because I took the one minute extra to speak to them like a person and not a robot. I've found since i've done that alot of people in starbucks when I sit down to chill just chat to me because they can see i'm friendly so the AA is gone. I also find that when I do night game and I see some of them out, they have friends and introduce me. Hope I've helped dude.

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:03 pm ]
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Quote: I tested out a bunch of canned routines, openers and kino two nights in a row and they worked perfect. First night I got 2 K-closes and 2 number closes, next night I got 2 number closes, and brought one girl back to my apartment. While we were making out on my bed, I tried taking her underwear off but she said she didn't want to do it because "she just met me". At the time I didn't think, but if she decided to come home with me and spend the night, doesn't that automatically mean she wants to have sex? I responded sounding like it wasn't a big deal and just continued to make out, and that's how the night just ended. What should have I done differently? I have her number and I texted her, but she doesn't seem eager to text back or come visit me. Should I just leave her alone or keep texting her to try to get her interested in me like that night? Second question is, while I am improving in night game a lot, my day game sucks and I have a lot of approach anxiety. What are some ways to combat this and what kind of routines can I use during the day? thanks What canned Routines? Not enough push-pull at the right time Bro, Back off, then full steam, then back off! That way it's not her "fault" it just sorta happened! Yes her intention was to have sex, she just did not want to feel slutty! You should have tried the pantie tug again! Don't text her for a while, she will likely text you back in a few days, if not. Look up my "Text routine for weekend slump" It's a good day game after a number close! Day game in stores? for example; Pick up a can of body spray/shampoo, ask HB nearby: "What do you think?, I could use some female input."

Author:	tay [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:52 pm ]
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Quote: to your first point, you'll find alot of good women will push you away, it's natural. They don't want to be seen as an easy slut and she has just met you... If a girl does that again use AFC Adam's countdown method, say 'Okay, if you want me to stop, stay stop within the count of 5' then carry on but slowly, if she doesnt say stop then it's okay, if she does then respect her wishes, you'll be the gent. I am not exactly clear what you mean by the countdown method. do I tell her I am going to count to 5 and if she doesn't say stop before I count to 5, I can proceed with my intentions? Quote: What canned Routines? Not enough push-pull at the right time Bro, Back off, then full steam, then back off! That way it's not her "fault" it just sorta happened! Yes her intention was to have sex, she just did not want to feel slutty! You should have tried the pantie tug again! Don't text her for a while, she will likely text you back in a few days, if not. Look up my "Text routine for weekend slump" It's a good day game after a number close! used mainly bank robbery opener, magic opener and some other bullshit. when you say not enough push-pull, do you mean while we were in bed, or at a place where I met her?

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:56 am ]
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Quote: do you mean while we were in bed, or at a place where I met her? At your place, but just before the bed, she wasen't worked up enough yet. PM if you like

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Author:	tay [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:42 am ]
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so i've been texting the same girl and she has responded positively but yet i don't think she wants to have intimate relationship because she isn't eager to see me again. Gonna wait for the weekend, in the mean time I want to just come straight forward and ask her what she thinks about me? is that a good idea? should I tell her that we should be friends, so I don't look needy?

Author:	RetiredRodeo [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:51 am ]
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Quote: so i've been texting the same girl and she has responded positively but yet i don't think she wants to have intimate relationship because she isn't eager to see me again. Gonna wait for the weekend, in the mean time I want to just come straight forward and ask her what she thinks about me? is that a good idea? should I tell her that we should be friends, so I don't look needy? Don't text her anything for a couple of days... Let it marinate. At the end of 3 days, if she's not texted you - you can fall into 'random guy' mode. If she has texted you, increase time between texts to her to show you don't give a fuck. You may also realize in the 3 days you just dont' give a fuck as it is and save the effort, and open new sets. Never ask her opinion of you. NEVER give her the authority to pass judgement over you - act as if you don't give a shit what she thinks. Rodeo.

Author:	tay [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:54 am ]
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Thanks for the advice. Honestly, I was gonna go out on the weekend anyway and try to meet more girls but in the mean time it's just awkward because I don't know the exact status with this girl.

Author:	RetiredRodeo [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:05 am ]
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Quote: Thanks for the advice. Honestly, I was gonna go out on the weekend anyway and try to meet more girls but in the mean time it's just awkward because I don't know the exact status with this girl. That awkward feeling is really just your body telling you it needs more women to choose from... nothing more.

Author:	Lockdown [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:22 am ]
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Regarding the situation where she wouldn't let you take her underwear off, probably a couple of things you could try in the future - Was she definitely 'ready' enough? Every girl is different but some you can tell are ready because they sort of start moaning and thrusting while you're still kissing them, that's definitely a good sign haha. If you think she was ready and up for it but just didn't want to seem too eager and slutty you could try a freeze out in the future. Instead of being like "it's fine" or whatever you said at the time, just say "ok" or something fairly cold, and change the mood up, either put a light back on, or more lights on, move away from her, maybe put the TV on or try something on your laptop. Usually gets them craving physicality again. As for waiting to see what this chick says if she texts you, don't. Head out, keep opening sets and getting numbers. Don't wait, or she's in control, and she wouldn't even let you take her pants off man!

Author:	tay [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:23 am ]
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very good advice guys, appreciate it.

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