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| Author: | mapleleaf [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What's the difference between Alpha Male vs. Jerk? |
I am trying to understand the concept in order to fully develop myself into an Alpha male. But I am having problems in understanding the line to draw between alpha men vs jerk. What actually distinguishes between the two? Any examples? |
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| Author: | 0uch [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:50 pm ] |
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There is no different. Alpha male are split "Good Guys" or "Bad Boys" or jerk if you wanna call it that. They just have a different mind set that's about it. But have the same exact alpha male traits. There not trying to prove there alpha in either case. Also, don't get "good guys" confuse with "nice guys" |
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| Author: | Slip n Slide [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:52 pm ] |
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Alpha males get respect. Jerks get none. Some jerks seem to get social respect, I know one that's dating a very hot girl. But behind his back, EVERYONE talks shit about him, sometimes to his face too. I couldn't live that way. Give respect to get respect. |
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| Author: | Wolfwoodd [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's the difference between Alpha Male vs. Jerk? |
Quote: I am trying to understand the concept in order to fully develop myself into an Alpha male. But I am having problems in understanding the line to draw between alpha men vs jerk. What actually distinguishes between the two? Any examples?
They are completely different. Off the top of my head I would describe the two like this:Jerks: guys who make up for there beta qualities/insecurities by being obnoxious or physically intimidating people. Attention-seekers. Example: Jealous ex-boyfriends, Orbiters, Needy Guys Alphas: Do not really acknowledge other guys (when it comes to pursuing women), socially adept, emotionally stable, and non-reactive to drama. Ex: James Bond, Carry Grant (pretty much any of his movies), the dude from Californication. Here's a good link that will help you get an idea of what Alpha-male qualities look like (it's a classic post by Tyler Durden): http://arizonapua.com/tyler-durdens-25- ... ing-women/ -Wolf |
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| Author: | mapleleaf [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:54 pm ] |
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Quote: EVERYONE talks shit about him, sometimes to his face too.
Can you give me an example, like what he does so that I can avoid being that person? Give respect to get respect. Also, would you consider Dr. House from House MD an alpha or a Jerk? |
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| Author: | DJ_Z [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:03 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: EVERYONE talks shit about him, sometimes to his face too.
Can you give me an example, like what he does so that I can avoid being that person? Give respect to get respect. Also, would you consider Dr. House from House MD an alpha or a Jerk? It's a basic concept you've heard since childhood. Respect is earned, not given. If you are a decent human being, who treats others well, has a spine, stands up for your beliefs, and show understanding and compassion when necessary, good people will recognize this and respect you and your words/actions. If you try to mock others, question their intelligence or physical appearance, and try to gain respect through fear, you will only get a halfassed effort. Bullies and tools may have people that appear to look up to them, but once the bully leaves the room and no one is at risk of conflict they will tear at you. |
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| Author: | asesino [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's the difference between Alpha Male vs. Jerk? |
Quote: I am trying to understand the concept in order to fully develop myself into an Alpha male. But I am having problems in understanding the line to draw between alpha men vs jerk. What actually distinguishes between the two? Any examples?
Humble & confidant vs. arrogant and crass/rude
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| Author: | pumpington [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:03 pm ] |
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Alpha (uppercase Α, lowercase α; Greek: άλφα) is the first letter of the Greek alphabet. In the system of Greek numerals it has a value of 1. It was derived from the Phoenician letter Aleph Aleph. Letters that arose from Alpha include the Latin A and the Cyrillic letter А. In English the noun alpha is used as a synonym for "beginning", or "first" (in a series), reflecting its Greek roots. alpha is #1, the top dog, first in line, the most important status is what you are looking to build, being a jerk, or being a nice person, has little to do with your status, being confident does, what sort of life you lead does, what your personality is like (do people *including yourself* respect and admire you?), are you the ''main person'', do you take care of yourself? in groups the alpha would be the leader, the most dominant presence in the group (the most respected) the way I see it, you can get respect two ways, admiration, and fear, you don't even have to be an asshole, but you can, you don't have to be a nice guy, but you can, to start to earn peoples respect, first you must respect yourself, and second respect other people, in that order, you give respect, to get respect, if someone disrespects you, do not lower your own self respect for that person (the less you will give, the less you will get, with the exception of people that have low self esteem issues) forget about this alpha beta zeta omega stuff, simplify it as such be a person, other people want to associate with, and go for what you want without fear or regret, if it does not work out, don't cling to the idea of chasing a pipe dream and move on, improve yourself in every aspect of your life that you can, become the most important person you possibly can be, set out to accomplish something, learn to connect with people so they actually want you in their lives, set goals and strive to achieve them, everyone has different goals, reach for your goals, there are a million ways to get to a vagina or several(if that is your goal), there is not one best way, just setting a goal, and trying to achieve it, you may have to take risks along the way to that goal, do so and never look back and apologize for trying to reach your goals the only person that could ever hold you back is yourself, you have to just let go, and let people see who you really are, and not fear what they think of you for it, you only stand to gain something from pursuing your goals, if you don't, you will not achieve them GOOD LUCK |
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| Author: | Mr. Assertive [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:06 pm ] |
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just treat others the way you want to be treated. If you put yourself in their shoes it will make it easier for you to grasp. Pretty simple, but even the simplest things people can over complicate. |
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| Author: | MadTown Mayhem [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:54 pm ] |
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Since respect seems to be a common theme on this thread, I'll throw in my two cents in an effort to illustrate how one can be an alpha male and still give respect, as well as how to give respect without a loss of alpha male status. A couple of years ago I was listening to a PUA podcast (sorry, but I can't remember the name). The host asked a question: "You're with a HB and you're entering a building. As you enter, you walk past a doorman, a maintenance man, and a well-dressed & important-looking business man. Who does the PUA say hello to?" The answer: all of them. It shows you're comfortable with all social groups, that you're not judgmental or superficial, that you're not intimidated by anyone, and it gives you value because you are seen as having a wide degree of social contacts. And by spreading the respect around, it also shows that you're not a douchebag that would only speak to the rich guy. It also makes you look like the guy everyone wants to talk to. Note the example just has you saying hello, not stopping to chat with everyone. Going overboard in the friendliness department while with a HB would be seeking validation which would reduce your perceived value. Ever since hearing that podcast I put the idea into practice and not only is it true, but there's a lot of people out there who work every day without any recognition, and once you recognize them on a routine basis, these folks will bend over backwards for you, and your simply being there will be the best part of their day. If an HB is with you, they'll see the respect these folks give you, I guarantee it. Whether or not she appreciates it is up to her personality, but if she doesn't at least you'll know what type of woman you're dealing with. [/i] |
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