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Author:  Struxure [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:48 am ]
Post subject:  overdid it with the negging and now she hates me

So I've been practicing my game on the receptionist at my club and I started off playfully teasing, c&f, and a little bit of negging for the first few times i would see her. All was good but today i think i overdid it with the negs and she went from being cool with me to really hating me.

I don't want to get into the details of what I did but really dread the thought of it being extremely awkward/tense everytime i see her now. This has definitely been a learning experience, I sincerely feel bad about it, and I now know the limit on how far to push things.

Any suggestions on what I can do or say the next time I see her to smooth things out would be greatly appreciated!

Author:  AFC AzA [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:00 am ]
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fail and learn...fail and learn man.
but after experience, NEG-ing is for lower value peoples.
just use playful/flirtous tease.

Author:  Cognizant1 [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:23 am ]
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negging is fucking retarded, you should NEVER use it I dont care what anyone here says.

There's a diff between cocky funny and negging, negging is just mean spirited shit.

Author:  0uch [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:11 am ]
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negging is fucking retarded, you should NEVER use it I dont care what anyone here says.

There's a diff between cocky funny and negging, negging is just mean spirited shit.
I agree, negging is stupid.

U should tease instead.

Author:  Cognizant1 [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:29 am ]
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Make it your objective to make the girl feel good about herself. They're like you and I, in need of an escape from the monotony of the daily grind. They sweat, breath, and fart like we do... When their mascara runs off their face, their hair is all a mess, and their almost embarrassed for you to see them in this 'vulnerable' state, you realize they are just like anyone else. The presentation is just a facade designed to increase their attractiveness to us. Show them something different, an experience that is unique...create the conditions for them to be swept away in the moment. Women love to feel as though things just unfolded organically, work towards placing the right pieces of the puzzle together to increase the probability of this happening.

Provide her with a sense of adventure, mystery, intrigue. But never, EVER neg her, or do anything to evoke any sort of bad, or ill feelings. This will only negate all the progress you made with her to that point.

Author:  Struxure [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:55 pm ]
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lesson learned - no more negging.

I'm still seeking some advice/feedback on how I might be able to correct the situation.

She seems to be a rational person, with a fun personality, and I was thinking that saying something playful might diffuse some of the animosity.

As an example, tell her that if she still hates me and wants to get a divorce that I totally understand, but I'm keeping the kids, the house and the dog, and all she gets are the ice cube trays...or something along the same idea

I understand that this could go either one of two ways: 1. she laughs and I am back in her good books, 2. she ignores me and makes me look like a chode

The fact that her job is to greet everyone who walks in hedges the risk of #2 happening

any thoughts? feedback?

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: overdid it with the negging and now she hates me

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So I've been practicing my game on the receptionist at my club and I started off playfully teasing, c&f, and a little bit of negging for the first few times i would see her. All was good but today i think i overdid it with the negs and she went from being cool with me to really hating me...
Aha. Same situation here with my sarges last year. So I went back to study what I've been doing wrong with the Mystery Method.

Here are some points.

1. Mystery hangs out with HB10s with high confidence levels who usually hangout in night clubs and bars. Just Google some Mystery pictures. Those kinds of chicks will have different behavior from say, your HB10 receptionist who only goes to nightclubs and bars once a month or once a year (if this is the case).

2. I found that doing the established neg routines are effective when the girl negs you FIRST in a rude manner. In this case, you'll have to come back with a stronger neg to show your dominance. Dominant men attract women. If a woman is trying to dominate you, then she is testing you if you are more dominant than her. If you say the established neg routines first on a woman who is NOT trying to dominate you, then the you are being domineering. Domineering attitudes kill attraction while dominant traits fan the flames of sexual attraction. There's a big difference.

3. Hate and love are almost the same. If your receptionist is anywhere from 18 to 28 years old, then letting her feel hate is letting her experience the emotional roller coaster ride of romance. Have you tried reading a girlie romance novel where the badboy gets the girl? The girl hates the badboy first. Due to this hate, she keeps thinking about him. Then the badboy does something that softens her heart and the girl says to herself, he must be a badboy on the outside but a lovable man on the inside. I'd read several short novels from my exes with the same exact story line. Girls keep on buying and reading these novels even though the plot is the same.

4. You'll need to create your own negs that are a lot milder than the established negs for shy girls, HB6s, 7s, 8s, or even 9s. However, sometimes an HB6 feels likes she's an HB10 and will neg you FIRST with established girlie neg routines. If this is the case, you'll have to neg her with the strongest neg that you know.

One girl, HB6.5, negged me with a, "Do you have a short dick?" but she said it in a charming manner. So I came back with a polite, but strong neg. We ended up fucking every other weekend.

Mild negs are actually teases or bantering which work REALLY well with most girls but I find the established PUA neg routines get girls mad when I use it on them first.

Revise and adapt your neg routines to the context of your PUA operations.

How do you spread a soft cushion on your neg crash-and-burn landing? Get a girlie short romance novel where the badboy wins the girl. Learn and learn it well. :twisted:

Author:  Struxure [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:29 pm ]
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letting her feel hate is letting her experience the emotional roller coaster ride of romance.
...similar to when you break up with a girlfriend, she hates your guts, something causes you to get back together, you kiss and make up, and everything is hunky dory

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:02 pm ]
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...similar to when you break up with a girlfriend, she hates your guts, something causes you to get back together, you kiss and make up, and everything is hunky dory
Right on brother. **high five** :twisted:

Author:  seph89 [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: overdid it with the negging and now she hates me

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So I've been practicing my game on the receptionist at my club and I started off playfully teasing, c&f, and a little bit of negging for the first few times i would see her. All was good but today i think i overdid it with the negs and she went from being cool with me to really hating me.

I don't want to get into the details of what I did but really dread the thought of it being extremely awkward/tense everytime i see her now. This has definitely been a learning experience, I sincerely feel bad about it, and I now know the limit on how far to push things.

Any suggestions on what I can do or say the next time I see her to smooth things out would be greatly appreciated!
The best thing you could do is apologize for coming off rude and offending her.

This is not to be mistaken as an AFC move. You are being strong and holding your ground. Be honest and if you have the right frame she will accept it, albeit not immediately but it is the first step towards mending things.

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