PUA Forum :: Losing sleep over this

Hold up bigdog2233, take a breather. So you want girls to find you attractive? There are alot of things you can do to make woman attracted to you without loosing who you are, by moving to become the man you want to.

let me explain. It doesn't matter if you just crawled out from under a rock or have been socialising all your life.

Woman want an Alpha male. You become an Alpha male by growing you first (inner game) and then move onto overcoming approach anxiety, escalating and then closing.

Being 18years old is a great time to start this journey as you still are coming out of your shell, just by asking us you are at the starting blocks of getting the girl or girls you want.

I will keep an eye on this thread, ask what you want to know and we will do our best to help.

Do some homework. Youtube PUA and get watching the in field stuff. Get on a few mailing lists (Vince Lin, Roosh, Pellicier) and see where that takes you.

To be blunt, money is a terrible excuse. I do not know what you are hoping to achieve but I think you need a shift in perception.

Each individual develops his own unique game by trial an error, with the help of the basics.

Unless your community is so small you cannot practice (like 20-30 people) there is always ample opportunity.

I suggest practice being playful with girls that are friends, family, any age 15-50 and build the lacking confidence.

It is also a game of numbers. If you approach 10 girls, and try something, you may number close 2 or 3 to start, to then get better to 7or8.

Out of 10 approaches I get 7 or 8 number closes, and of the eight 5 dates.

Do not talk about money, go out in your mates car instead of your own, woman want you to demonstrate things their subconscious recognises, not their conscious thought. The men they are with are not their most logical choice, but the most alpha traits hit her inside where she didn't expect it.

There are no free lunches here. Practice makes perfect . You must crawl before you walk.

Maybe learn some routines. I have alot of natural game, but if you don't, find what works for you.

With this girl tell her you what you are doing(together), pick her up, joke about her excuses and persist. DHV, Neg, get her laughing, Kino escalate, freeze out or whatever gets traction and make it happen.

All the best. Keep us posted.

Things you should know about me:

-I have never had a girlfriend
-I have never kissed a girl
-I have never held hands with a girl
-I have never even talked to a girl with her knowing that I want more than friendship
-I'm 18
-I'm 6ft tall, used to weigh 300lb's, and now I weigh 220, but still have confidence/self-esteem issues.

Alright, so...I've been home schooled my whole life, and just recently (about a year ago) I met my current best friend, who is my only friend, and HAS been my only friend for the past ~6 years. He pretty much introduced me to socialism. Since then I've met 2 girls, which I now hang out with every other day, with him. One of them is his girlfriend, the other is a girl who is in love with someone who is in jail, and she started "dating" him after he went to jail. Anyways...my friend met his girlfriend when him and I were at the park one day, and now...after they started dating, he thinks I like her, and thinks she likes me. This doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that she and I were talking about it, and she's like "I could never like you like that. I need more than money, I need attraction before I like someone."....does this mean that all I have to offer is money? (I come from a well-off family, my parents own a small business, but we are far from rich). I drive a very nice car because I had a lawsuit when I was younger, so people think we're rich. This is my first question. It's been making me lose sleep, because I feel like all I have to offer is money. This could possibly be because as I mentioned before I've never had a girlfriend, and I've always been self-conscious with low self-esteem. But her saying she needs more than money to like someone just made me feel like shit...and is LITERALLY making me lose sleep.

My second question is...how do I get the girl that is "in love" with that guy from jail to hang out with me alone? I've tried texting her saying I'm bored, and we should go to the beach or something, but she makes up shitty excuses...like "I'm doing my hair today". This girl knows I like her, because my friends girlfriend told her. How should I go about hanging out with this girl alone?

Thanks a LOT in advance.

Author:	bigdog2233 [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:28 am ]
Post subject:	Losing sleep over this
Things you should know about me: -I have never had a girlfriend -I have never kissed a girl -I have never held hands with a girl -I have never even talked to a girl with her knowing that I want more than friendship -I'm 18 -I'm 6ft tall, used to weigh 300lb's, and now I weigh 220, but still have confidence/self-esteem issues. Alright, so...I've been home schooled my whole life, and just recently (about a year ago) I met my current best friend, who is my only friend, and HAS been my only friend for the past ~6 years. He pretty much introduced me to socialism. Since then I've met 2 girls, which I now hang out with every other day, with him. One of them is his girlfriend, the other is a girl who is in love with someone who is in jail, and she started "dating" him after he went to jail. Anyways...my friend met his girlfriend when him and I were at the park one day, and now...after they started dating, he thinks I like her, and thinks she likes me. This doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that she and I were talking about it, and she's like "I could never like you like that. I need more than money, I need attraction before I like someone."....does this mean that all I have to offer is money? (I come from a well-off family, my parents own a small business, but we are far from rich). I drive a very nice car because I had a lawsuit when I was younger, so people think we're rich. This is my first question. It's been making me lose sleep, because I feel like all I have to offer is money. This could possibly be because as I mentioned before I've never had a girlfriend, and I've always been self-conscious with low self-esteem. But her saying she needs more than money to like someone just made me feel like shit...and is LITERALLY making me lose sleep. My second question is...how do I get the girl that is "in love" with that guy from jail to hang out with me alone? I've tried texting her saying I'm bored, and we should go to the beach or something, but she makes up shitty excuses...like "I'm doing my hair today". This girl knows I like her, because my friends girlfriend told her. How should I go about hanging out with this girl alone? Thanks a LOT in advance.

Author:	g-force [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:02 am ]
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Hold up bigdog2233, take a breather. So you want girls to find you attractive? There are alot of things you can do to make woman attracted to you without loosing who you are, by moving to become the man you want to. let me explain. It doesn't matter if you just crawled out from under a rock or have been socialising all your life. Woman want an Alpha male. You become an Alpha male by growing you first (inner game) and then move onto overcoming approach anxiety, escalating and then closing. Being 18years old is a great time to start this journey as you still are coming out of your shell, just by asking us you are at the starting blocks of getting the girl or girls you want. I will keep an eye on this thread, ask what you want to know and we will do our best to help. Do some homework. Youtube PUA and get watching the in field stuff. Get on a few mailing lists (Vince Lin, Roosh, Pellicier) and see where that takes you.

Author:	bigdog2233 [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:58 am ]
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Quote: Hold up bigdog2233, take a breather. So you want girls to find you attractive? There are alot of things you can do to make woman attracted to you without loosing who you are, by moving to become the man you want to. let me explain. It doesn't matter if you just crawled out from under a rock or have been socialising all your life. Woman want an Alpha male. You become an Alpha male by growing you first (inner game) and then move onto overcoming approach anxiety, escalating and then closing. Being 18years old is a great time to start this journey as you still are coming out of your shell, just by asking us you are at the starting blocks of getting the girl or girls you want. I will keep an eye on this thread, ask what you want to know and we will do our best to help. Do some homework. Youtube PUA and get watching the in field stuff. Get on a few mailing lists (Vince Lin, Roosh, Pellicier) and see where that takes you. I've been studying PUA for a few months now, but I haven't really found a use for any of it in a social circle, hence why I'm asking what to do with this girl. But I've always been skeptical my whole life about whether I will ever attract girls with ways other than money...and this girl just kind've confirmed to me that all I have going for me is money. Which like I said...I really don't even have that, it just appears to other people that I do. But thanks a lot for your reply and help.

Author:	g-force [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:24 am ]
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To be blunt, money is a terrible excuse. I do not know what you are hoping to achieve but I think you need a shift in perception. Each individual develops his own unique game by trial an error, with the help of the basics. Unless your community is so small you cannot practice (like 20-30 people) there is always ample opportunity. I suggest practice being playful with girls that are friends, family, any age 15-50 and build the lacking confidence. It is also a game of numbers. If you approach 10 girls, and try something, you may number close 2 or 3 to start, to then get better to 7or8. Out of 10 approaches I get 7 or 8 number closes, and of the eight 5 dates. Do not talk about money, go out in your mates car instead of your own, woman want you to demonstrate things their subconscious recognises, not their conscious thought. The men they are with are not their most logical choice, but the most alpha traits hit her inside where she didn't expect it. There are no free lunches here. Practice makes perfect . You must crawl before you walk. Maybe learn some routines. I have alot of natural game, but if you don't, find what works for you. With this girl tell her you what you are doing(together), pick her up, joke about her excuses and persist. DHV, Neg, get her laughing, Kino escalate, freeze out or whatever gets traction and make it happen. All the best. Keep us posted.

Author:	bigdog2233 [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:36 am ]
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Quote: To be blunt, money is a terrible excuse. I do not know what you are hoping to achieve but I think you need a shift in perception. Each individual develops his own unique game by trial an error, with the help of the basics. Unless your community is so small you cannot practice (like 20-30 people) there is always ample opportunity. I suggest practice being playful with girls that are friends, family, any age 15-50 and build the lacking confidence. It is also a game of numbers. If you approach 10 girls, and try something, you may number close 2 or 3 to start, to then get better to 7or8. Out of 10 approaches I get 7 or 8 number closes, and of the eight 5 dates. Do not talk about money, go out in your mates car instead of your own, woman want you to demonstrate things their subconscious recognises, not their conscious thought. The men they are with are not their most logical choice, but the most alpha traits hit her inside where she didn't expect it. There are no free lunches here. Practice makes perfect . You must crawl before you walk. Maybe learn some routines. I have alot of natural game, but if you don't, find what works for you. With this girl tell her you what you are doing(together), pick her up, joke about her excuses and persist. DHV, Neg, get her laughing, Kino escalate, freeze out or whatever gets traction and make it happen. All the best. Keep us posted. Thanks a lot for the reply. I wasn't saying money is my excuse, I'm just saying I've always thought that girls don't find me attractive, and when this girl said that she's not interested in me because she doesn't care about money, it made me think all I have going for me is money. Again, thanks a lot for the reply, and I'll try getting that girl to hang out with me alone tomorrow. I'll let you know what happens. (Any idea of a way to get her to hang out with me alone without the rest of our social group?)

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Author:	g-force [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:44 am ]
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A cafe or Lounge Bar, keep it short, leave her wanting to spend more time with you.

Author:	Taste D'Wayne Bowe [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:14 am ]
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you have to believe that there's nothing wrong with you. Sure you were born into what sounds like a life of anti-socialism. But you have to realize there's nothing wrong with you. Develop a plan for you life and for girls. Don't settle. There's really nothing ever wrong with us , we just start to believe there is and that's the worst thing you or anyone can do. U can be the man you want to be. We all can

Author:	skills360 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Losing sleep over this
Quote: Things you should know about me: -I have never had a girlfriend -I have never kissed a girl -I have never held hands with a girl -I have never even talked to a girl with her knowing that I want more than friendship -I'm 18 -I'm 6ft tall, used to weigh 300lb's, and now I weigh 220, but still have confidence/self-esteem issues. Alright, so...I've been home schooled my whole life, and just recently (about a year ago) I met my current best friend, who is my only friend, and HAS been my only friend for the past ~6 years. He pretty much introduced me to socialism. Since then I've met 2 girls, which I now hang out with every other day, with him. One of them is his girlfriend, the other is a girl who is in love with someone who is in jail, and she started "dating" him after he went to jail. Anyways...my friend met his girlfriend when him and I were at the park one day, and now...after they started dating, he thinks I like her, and thinks she likes me. This doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that she and I were talking about it, and she's like "I could never like you like that. I need more than money, I need attraction before I like someone."....does this mean that all I have to offer is money? (I come from a well-off family, my parents own a small business, but we are far from rich). I drive a very nice car because I had a lawsuit when I was younger, so people think we're rich. This is my first question. It's been making me lose sleep, because I feel like all I have to offer is money. This could possibly be because as I mentioned before I've never had a girlfriend, and I've always been self-conscious with low self-esteem. But her saying she needs more than money to like someone just made me feel like shit...and is LITERALLY making me lose sleep. My second question is...how do I get the girl that is "in love" with that guy from jail to hang out with me alone? I've tried texting her saying I'm bored, and we should go to the beach or something, but she makes up shitty excuses...like "I'm doing my hair today". This girl knows I like her, because my friends girlfriend told her. How should I go about hanging out with this girl alone? Thanks a LOT in advance. You need to learn game first, get the game(for entertainment) and too see what is possible if you get good from guys worst than you, then get david d double your dating(for basic women psycology), then minimal game by aaron sleazy, while doing that, go everyday to youtube into the simplepickup channel, and watch a video a day, also go to rsd free tour channel a lot of good free stuff, while doing all this hit the gym...

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