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Author:  Anivia [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Mystery Method question.
To start off, I've been into the PU-community for about six months now. However, I still haven't read Mystery's book describing his method. I've seen and read small chunks off it from forums and whatnot.

Let's get to the point, my question is: Is his new book (The Pickup Artist: The New and Improved Art of Seduction) better/worse than his old book? Do I need to read his old book to get a full view on the method, or does the newest book explain the method fully?

Thanks for feedback!
Author:  Warped Mindless [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:17 am ]
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You should stay away from MM if you actually want to become an attractive man and get laid as well.
Author:  Efildrah [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:28 am ]
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Little check:

Ask yourself, what is your present STATE OF MIND:
1) I am hot, sexy, attractive , i enjoy my life and pull positive energy/people towards me
or
2) I want to learn more about some aspect of life and study is as hard as i can...

Point is, both states are RIGHT for different situations.

Books help you become aware of things you never thought of before, but only real life experience is the Guru of all Gurus.
That's an old cliche but damn it still works.

I read most of the books and watched most of the videos. I took the things that suit my personality and that's it.
I don't use everything in MM neither everything in Gambler's or anyone else's method.
Read until you start getting the feeling of AA, then you know it's the time to stop the virtual and start the REAL thing, which is going to parties and picking-up girls whenever you can.

Hopefully this text will cut your potential loss of time while figuring out what is best for you, since this is why communications between people exist, to enable an individual to become more efficient at using his time.

Cheers mate :)
Author:  BirdBoy [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:29 pm ]
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You should stay away from MM if you actually want to become an attractive man and get laid as well.
when i first came on here i expected everyone to be worshipping the guy..but i have found the quite opposite. why is this??
Author:  Snarg [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:42 pm ]
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You should stay away from MM if you actually want to become an attractive man and get laid as well.
when i first came on here i expected everyone to be worshipping the guy..but i have found the quite opposite. why is this??
His stuff has become insanely canned - everyone uses it, and it's just not that effective. Pretty sure to kiss a girl, he suggests you ask "Would you like to kiss me now?" That's just awful.
Author:  Warped Mindless [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:38 pm ]
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You should stay away from MM if you actually want to become an attractive man and get laid as well.
when i first came on here i expected everyone to be worshipping the guy..but i have found the quite opposite. why is this??
Its inefficient, lame, and unhealthy.
Author:  seph89 [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:57 am ]
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I think the Mystery Method is very effective IF USED CORRECTLY...

I will continue to mention this. Inner Game is what drives everything. You must be confident and comfortable in your own skin. You have to believe in yourself. This is where 90% of people fuck up and then blame the method.

Yes there are lots of canned openers and therein lies the problem. You got tons of AFC's with zero confidence attempting to use these canned openers and failing because they are trying too hard and end up coming off blatantly fake.

The MM has to be looked at broadly. It is the sequence and pattern of the method that is powerful and effective. You open, demonstrate value, then qualify the girl once she's shown enough interest. Then you move into developing comfort with her to the point where she trusts you enough to give you her sexuality. Successful businessmen do this as do PUA's, without realizing it is the same pattern.

This whole misconception is very analogous to weightlifting...there are lots of guys who say that squats and deadlifts are bad for you but that's because they are doing it with SHITTY technique, either self-taught or learned from shitty coaches. They do not have the correct movement pattern and instead are just going through the motions half-assed without being INTELLECTUALLY INVOLVED.

With Game it's no different. The MM is just a method, but the real driving force behind powerful seduction with women, business clients, or anyone is the CONFIDENCE, the Inner Game. You do not need MM...but it is a great tool if and ONLY IF it is used correctly.

Hope this clears some things up.
Author:  MagicCaveman [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:22 pm ]
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You guys are missing the point of the MM, his teachings are a foundation that you have to build on. They are the starting point for an AFC. From there you can then learn how to build your own game and what works. For me, Mystery is the best PUA for getting into the game from start to finish.
Author:  Snarg [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:29 pm ]
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I can see where you're coming from, but I feel like he kind of gets you off on the wrong foot and builds bad habits. There are far superior books out there for getting you off your feet. The Game is a staple, of course, and after that I believe books from people like Gambler are far more effective, as are self-improvement books such as reading body language and neurolinguistic programming.
Author:  MagicCaveman [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:46 pm ]
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I never actually read the MM. I watched his seminar videos and for me they were awesome!
Author:  Ezo [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:57 pm ]
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You should stay away from MM if you actually want to become an attractive man and get laid as well.
This is simply not true.

You can get awesome results from the MM but then again you can get awesome results from almost any method, including dressing up like the Easter Bunny and jump around singing Bon Jovi.

The reason that people dislike Mystery here is because they feel that somehow they are better than him (despite having worse results). It is always fun to bash at someone who used to be the shit. People forget that the PU community owes a lot of stuff to Mystery and Style. Many people find their way here because of them and many people build up their confidence using this method.

When people get better and have incorporated the good parts of the MM into their game to the level where it is automatic and they dont think about it, it is like they start thinking that they had no help from it at all. But they do. Mystery has done more things than just neg theory.

I started out with the MM and it has gone well for me.

Now we have all those wannabe naturals running around saying, you just have to be the shit and you just need to be yourself and it will all work out for you. Yeah, that will work out for you if you have all the rest going for you.

Different methods work differently for different people.

Read this link! Read it carefully!

the-methods-vt121024.html?highlight=methods

And dont bash other peoples methods, it is really not cool.
Author:  Anivia [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:25 pm ]
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You guys are missing the point of the MM, his teachings are a foundation that you have to build on. They are the starting point for an AFC. From there you can then learn how to build your own game and what works. For me, Mystery is the best PUA for getting into the game from start to finish.
This is exactly what was on my mind. I wasn't planning on using his method by script - only use the fundementals and build in other methods to fit my style.

So does anyone want to answer the topic? :)
Author:  Imar [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:52 pm ]
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You should stay away from MM if you actually want to become an attractive man and get laid as well.
when i first came on here i expected everyone to be worshipping the guy..but i have found the quite opposite. why is this??
There is no honesty in his game.
Author:  seph89 [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:46 pm ]
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You should stay away from MM if you actually want to become an attractive man and get laid as well.
when i first came on here i expected everyone to be worshipping the guy..but i have found the quite opposite. why is this??
There is no honesty in his game.
Read both my and Ezo's post.
Author:  GoldenB0y [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:46 pm ]
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Mystery Method is not bad at all just don't follow it like a Robot lol.
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