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| Author: | Aboji [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Need master advice - almost in Friends Zone |
So a quick rundown of the story, I met her abt 3 months ago. I was gaming a little bit in the beginning and then I fell hard. Out came all the smiley face texts and mister nice guy but not that much, I tried not to look needy and maybe I tried too hard but anyways, she gave signs early on that she wanted something but not anything serious because she just got out of a serious relationship. We've been hanging out multiple times a weeks for the past month or so and I haven't been able to make much happen. Now don't get me wrong, my game is pretty tight but everything changes when I have feelings for someone, which she knows I have for her. The text ratio is like 1:1 with usually her opening and closing, and I haven't been showing any needyness at all which would have really fucked it up, but I'm moving into one of the most dangerous zones in the game, the friends zone, the signs are starting to get obvious and it's getting late. At this point, it's not as easy as pulling out kino tricks (which I haven't been doing much) and making it happen because of the amount of time passed and the situation of friends. And keep in mind I'm not looking just to get laid or anything here, I've found someone amazing, seriously in all my years, no woman comes close, so I'm looking for more. Anyways, I've thought and I have a couple options. 1. Tell her straight up how I'm feeling. Now this goes against all rules of being alpha and everything else but if this happened, she could either accept it outright, just want friends, or something in between. Either way, I can move on with my life or take the opportunity to take this further if it presents itself. 2. Go for it. Next time me and her are alone, play routines and lead it up to a makeout which would ultimately take this to the next step. This is a pretty risky move I feel though. I can't think of much else right now because it's hard to think logically when I'm wrapped up with emotions like this, which changes everything when I'm with a girl. Yes I try hard to think that I have ten girls waiting for me in my bed at home or stuff like that but it doesn't work like that. Anyway's I'm hoping some of you can give me some master advice that can get me out of this mess I put myself in. This should also be a good discussion because the friends zone is always a matter that can be further explored. Thanks to everyone who could leave an input. |
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| Author: | ElliottGordon [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:15 pm ] |
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It sounds like you're pretty much in the friend zone. Which means it's pretty difficult to resurrect anything right now. Your best chances of establishing a romantic relationship with a woman or within the first 5 min. You'd have better luck starting all over again. With dating, you need to get it right the first time–which seems like a high hoop to jump through through-- except you have 1 million chances to get it right. If you miss one interaction up, just start all over again. But never dwell on just one girl–you're wasting your time. I would go for number 2. It's ballsier. View it as a win-win. If she accepts, you've got a girl. If she doesn't reciprocate, you can move on with your life. |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need master advice - almost in Friends Zone |
Quote: So a quick rundown of the story, I met her abt 3 months ago. I was gaming a little bit in the beginning and then I fell hard. Out came all the smiley face texts and mister nice guy but not that much, I tried not to look needy and maybe I tried too hard but anyways, she gave signs early on that she wanted something but not anything serious because she just got out of a serious relationship.
We've been hanging out multiple times a weeks for the past month or so and I haven't been able to make much happen. Now don't get me wrong, my game is pretty tight but everything changes when I have feelings for someone, which she knows I have for her. The text ratio is like 1:1 with usually her opening and closing, and I haven't been showing any needyness at all which would have really fucked it up, but I'm moving into one of the most dangerous zones in the game, the friends zone, the signs are starting to get obvious and it's getting late. At this point, it's not as easy as pulling out kino tricks (which I haven't been doing much) and making it happen because of the amount of time passed and the situation of friends. And keep in mind I'm not looking just to get laid or anything here, I've found someone amazing, seriously in all my years, no woman comes close, so I'm looking for more. Anyways, I've thought and I have a couple options. 1. Tell her straight up how I'm feeling. Now this goes against all rules of being alpha and everything else but if this happened, she could either accept it outright, just want friends, or something in between. Either way, I can move on with my life or take the opportunity to take this further if it presents itself. NO, the above said she already knows how you feel, doing this is just running around in circles 2. Go for it. Next time me and her are alone, play routines and lead it up to a makeout which would ultimately take this to the next step. This is a pretty risky move I feel though. NO, it is not risky, stop being a little girl, it is a yes or a no, anything past 1 hour of talking, and she knows 100% if she would kiss you or not, if she will not past 1 hour, don't care what she says, she is 100% a waste of time, try a good 5 times through out the night, if you can't get a simple kiss from her, she is a waste of time, a kiss is nothing, it is low compliance, you can make out with an interested girl a good 10 minutes after meeting her, just invite her over to watch a movie, sit on a couch with her, run these series of compliance test 1)say, ''come here'' (if she asks why just say come closer, if she says no, just say ok and wait, if she doesn't come closer, stop calling her or texting her, until you find a new girl to hang out with, once you do, make that girl you main girl and start contacting this one again, but she is secondary as a backup to the new one) 2)put your arm around her and cuddle up (if she resists or does something to kill it, just say, don't be weird it's a movie come cuddle up, if she says no, just say ok, and wait same as above, if she fails to give compliance, she is a time waster this is a super low level of compliance that you can accomplish right after you meet a girl, it is on the same level as hand holding) 3)randomly during the movie just turn and look at her, and hold eye contact and just say, would you like to kiss me? if yes, do it if no, just smile, turn your head, and watch the movie, don't say anything or talk anything besides yes or no, just say lets see, and try to kiss her if you can not get a kiss from this girl after this long, she is only interested in your attention, she will say and do shit to confuse you and make you think she is into you, so she can keep your attention, don't buy into it, if she is not compliant to at least a kiss after this long, she is a waste of time and you should talk to other girls that are interested in more then just friends, there is nothing magical about the routines that makes girls like you, it is you that they like, the routines are just a way to start conversations off cold approach for guys that don't know what to say, just go for it, you are already in her mind classed as either boyfriend material, or friend material, there is absolutely no risk here, it is what it is, go for it and see what it is so you can either get a girlfriend here or move on I can't think of much else right now because it's hard to think logically when I'm wrapped up with emotions like this, which changes everything when I'm with a girl. Yes I try hard to think that I have ten girls waiting for me in my bed at home or stuff like that but it doesn't work like that. totally doesn't work like that, you are onto something, better to actually have the 10 girls then to pretend, abundance isn't about getting the girl you want, it is about understanding what it takes to get 10 girls, and what having 10 girls in contact is like, and how little one matters, find girls that you are interested in screen them to make sure they are what you want so if you get into a relationship your effort wasn't wasted, escalate, if she isn't down, go for a girl that is Anyway's I'm hoping some of you can give me some master advice that can get me out of this mess I put myself in. This should also be a good discussion because the friends zone is always a matter that can be further explored. Thanks to everyone who could leave an input. start meeting more girls, escalate faster, you have to run through more girls, work on making a good connection, getting along with them, making sure you have things in common and click good beyond just her being good looking, a kiss is not a big deal, try to figure out if you can get one within the first 3 days of hanging out alone, and when you first meet a girl, set a day to hang out alone with her, this should set you up to screen out the dis-interested girls and time wasters much quicker, if you are running into heavy problems, putting in effort to meet new girls is the answer |
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| Author: | Aboji [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:00 am ] |
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Alright I see thanks guys. I'm trying to think of some smart ass thing to say relating to how we were friends or something like that before I just go for a makeout. Any Ideas? |
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| Author: | EddieFews [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:10 am ] |
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Quote: Alright I see thanks guys. I'm trying to think of some smart ass thing to say relating to how we were friends or something like that before I just go for a makeout. Any Ideas?
Actions speak a shit load louder than words..Besides, saving a canned live for the "perfect" moment never works out and its pretty geeky The sooner you learn to let go, the sooner you can live in abundance of what you letting go of. |
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