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| Author: | cebm [ Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:47 am ] |
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how do i stay alpha with menacing/aggressive people? i have no problems whatsoever interacting with and being comfortable with any type of person except this type, here is a very general profile: they are usually the type of people who have tattoos on their necks, dress and look generally scummy, they talk and act like theyve been to prison (and probably have been), they'll ask lose/lose questions like 'youre not gonna dob me in if i have a beer here are you?' (if i say no it seems like im being weak and submissive, if i say yes i look like an uptight asshole and if i say nothing im rude and provocative), these people hold very long and intense eye contact, come inside your personal space, and always seem to be on the brink of violence or confrontation, they also have a predatory air and seem to be constantly sniffing for weakness, they'll ask you questions or make statements and when you answer or ask youre own question back they seem annoyed and any answer seems to offend or provoke them. i would probably deal with one or two people like this a year and when i do im always left feeling powerless and intimidated once the interaction is over. i tend to avoid these type of people as much as possible but sometimes it is impossible such as when on public transport or waiting for a ride ect. im sure im not the only person that struggles with this and was wondering what other people have done in these situations and how they deal with this type of personality? |
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| Author: | Snarg [ Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:57 pm ] |
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I always go for the arrogance route with people like that. I'm better than they are - this is a fact, and I let them know about it without directly saying so. Don't let them know they're getting the best of you and don't worry about their reaction to what you say. The reason they're doing this to you in the first place is because they feel like they have something to prove and feel inferior to you. Let them know that they're exactly right in their assumptions and that there's nothing they can do to change that. If you're talking to a woman when they come around, ignore them completely and tell the girl to move to a different area with you. If he follows, he looks like he's your bitch, so it's a win-win situation. |
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| Author: | cebm [ Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:53 am ] |
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thanks mate big help |
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| Author: | killermunkyz [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:56 am ] |
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I've had the same problem in the past except on a daily basis because that was who I worked with. What can I say?! Minimum wage jobs in warehouses attract all kinds of shitty people like that, and I live by Gary, Indiana. Gary was once the murder capitol of America, so yeah, I worked with and live around alot of shitty people. At work my whole crew of 6 guys was like that except for one guy and he was kind of an AFC. And I think he was kind of scared of them. We all almost killed each other on a daily basis. And we were all fighting for money with hourly wages and overtime, and we were competing for pussy. There were maybe 4 attractive girls in that whole store, so yeah we got into some shit. Luckily I never had to fight anyone because we were all afraid of losing our jobs, but if we were in a club we'd have been busting bottles over each other's heads and fuck'n stabbing each other and shit. They were fucked up ghetto ass shits. One guy really decided to give me shit because I got a promotion he wanted. So we competed for everything and he was kind of a natural/alpha type who I think new some pua shit, but not enough to know how to use it. I really had to up my game around him though because he was a natural. He sort of seemed to believe that being alpha meat being a dirt bag. This is the one flaw that destroys most naturals. The good thing for us about these guys is they are insecure as hell. The tougher they act on the outside the weaker you know they are on the inside. So while this dude acted like he was fuck'n Eminem or some thug gangster all the time, which he might have actually been (I swear to this day- he had Mexican Mafia tats on his arms and he always got pissed if you asked him about his tats) everyone knew that on the inside he was just a little scared bitch. Women especially pick up on this. Most don't like it unless they have real self esteem issues and will fuck anyone. And who wants one of them anyway? Not me! I want a normal girl. I've dated enough crazy hos! This new chick started working there. She was a 7 1/2 but she had a great ass so we all wanted her. That little bitch took every shot he could at me around her trying to infer that I was gay, or a pussy or some other shit like that. I just let it roll right off of me. Nothing he said ever justified a response as far as I was concerned. The more I ignored him the more interesting I was to her. When I wouldn't reply and just smile and keep talking to her he'd get enraged because he couldn't shake me. The second you get him to do this the girl's pussy is shut to him. He just demonstrated his weakness. That's about as unattractive to a woman as you can get. It's only slightly better than being a straight up pussy, but it still shuts the pink clam shut faster than you can say AFC. I use this shit all the time on people like that who think they are real alphas but are just insecure little boys. I just keep away from them when I can, but when I can't I just ignore them, or respond with a confident positive response that says I'm not stooping to your level. Usually that fucks them up in the head enough they just self destruct from there. Most guys you can just befriend with flattery and they will love you and actually help you with pick up, but dirt bags you have to be careful with. Someone told me once when you approach a mixed set always make sure you know if the guy's a player or a pussy. Pussies will let you do whatever, but players will give you shit when you go after his girls and try to cock block you. If you can't befriend him you gotta deal with him. Treat him like he's nobody. He doesn't exist. He's insignificant. He's nothing. Don't treat him badly. Just pretend he doesn't exist and focus on the girl. If they want to fight, luckily I've been practicing martial arts since I was 6, so I'm really not scared unless he pulls out a gun. If you're just scared of fights with these guys, I recommend learning some martial arts. Even if you can't take formal classes watch boxing, wrestling, the UFC, and martial arts movies. You can teach yourself alot of shit. I'm learning jiu jitsu off of youtube right now and have been training myself in various martial arts besides my own since I was 16. Buy some books. Subscribe to Black Belt Magazine. Also, buy a gun, and buy a knife. Legally of course. People have to be able to defend themselves. In America we have the right to bear arms. Take advantage of this. To me being able to defend myself is a big part of being a man, and self defense has helped me with PUA. It's not a solution for everything, but it helps. Knowing I can protect myself keeps me from worrying about what these fuckers might try to do. Also, on a side note, when it comes to PUA you can learn some shit from these dudes. Some of what I do in PUA I learned from watching these guys. Bad boys get pussy. It works. Just don't turn into an abusive violent dirt bag. I actually like being a bad boy and chill'n with bad boys. They aren't all really bad people. Sometimes it''s all just a front. Sometimes it's not. I just don't let them fuck with me or my game. Most of those guys I ended up being good friends with, but someone's always gonna hate you. Just don't let him get under your skin. You're better than him, and you know it. |
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| Author: | Chris2k10 [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:17 am ] |
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I simply give love. I always agree to what they say like Snarg said. They call me homo? I tell them "I want you man, come here I like using "bro" all the time. The gets the point that he's not messing with a pussy but at the same time I'm also too cool to humiliate him back. I made several friends like this by the way. I'm so cool that that he gets the feeling that he got lucky to be graced with a speck of attention from me. If the guy is a psycho and keeps going on and doesn't get the idea, then ignore him. |
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