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Author:  ozeen [ Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Would really like some general ideas!
So im new to this, not just the forum but the entire pickup game.

Please try to be interested in my wall of text :)

Before i even knew what a PUA was i always knew there was guys or certain ways possible to make this specific girl in this specific room focus on me, someway i could say the exactly perfect things to win her over. So then i found out about this "secret society" of PUA's and thought wow there are actual people trying to figure out the perfect solution to braking down a womens barriers.

So with that being said i read "The Game" very recently and watch various and read various information that could possibly help me proceed with trying to become a PUA.

So after studying and trying to get down some easy and half ass'd routine. I went out and tried it and id like some feedback from you fellows on how to improve,how i can add things on, and general help.

The first night went pretty shitty. Im not the worst looking fellow but also not the best, my worst quality is probably my height. im a short shit. anyway, i sit around the bar for awhile, and have a friend with me. I then bring up to a "2 set" the my friends buying a dog routine. One girl got pretty angry that my friend wanted to buy a small dog and quickly snubbed off. Thank god she wasnt my target. In any event i somehow hold a short convo with the target whos allergic to all animals, but we talk about that a little bit.
Then i was locked out when she randomly said "the bartenders my boyfriend" i guess she felt bad or i did bad who knows.

The same night i goto a 3 set by myself and pull the dog routine again. The girls start offering names and one said name it after the rapper "lil B" im like "lil b?" Girl-"yeah you never heard of him" ....me-"no im sorry i have not" girl-"wow you never heard of lil b" entire group of them walked away.

Now with that being said, i felt pretty horrible the next morning like wow even though im sure they wont remember me, i sucked. Im not horrible with women i easily can talk to them but, i want them to want me.

so Second night was a huge difference and im quite proud of it.
I goto the same bar and this bar has a very very very similiar crowd of people every night. There is this girl there i spot right away and always thought she was pretty from afar but i know she never even thought twice of who i was since i never tried talking to her. This night this was my target. I walk up to the girl and i pull the dog routine again(i know i gotta come up with other stuff whatever) Her friend quickly launches a name and says that all we got. so i hit a brick wall. i cant keep asking for more opinions where do i move? so i neg the target during this downtime and say "do you ever wear your hair up?" she said "no never" i said "i think it would look better up" she looked at her friend like i cant beleive this guy just said that to me. It was a good look like wow hes got balls look.

So without much more to say i tell her i have to rejoin my friends now and leave.
Thinking maybe ill come around to her again later sometime if i think its the right time.

So i find a group of 3 girls sitting at the bar who werent in my line of sight for being targets. But i need to DHV so i goto them and im pulling out bar tricks and then i use "the cube" method on one and before i know it one girl asks me to sit and do it to her friends. and before i know it i have a line of women waiting to be "cubed" lol.

I do it so much at this time im bored with it. But im DHVing the room at this point, i didnt know it but i was. These girls were touching me and id turn away to think the convo was over and they would poke me to get more.

NOW heres the surprise to me and my friend who saw me "neg" the target i talked about way before. She walks up to me and is like "wow you have everyone interested in you" and apparently she had been friends with the 3 untargetable girls at the bar. But the best part is...she comes and says this to me and my friend whispers in my ear which i didnt notice "she has her hair up" THIS made my night lol. needless to say i cubed her and she asked me name and then i turned away to neg again and she shook my hand and scurried off. im not sure what else to do there. but her friend was bugging her to leave.
Author:  Craig1919 [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:13 am ]
Post subject: 
So whats your question exactly? and also with wanting to learn more. Is it about Mystery Method or other techniques as well. MM is the first form of Indirect Game and there's plenty more styles out there
Author:  pumpington [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:00 pm ]
Post subject: 
you're doing great, just keep following the method until you come to your own conclusions and start to notice similiarities between dealing with alot of women,

as for outer game ideas for you, as per mystery method,

3 ioi's attempt to isolate her,

begin to qualify her, if you don't know what that is
chiefs-guide-to-outer-game-vt75887.html

check out #3 in that link that says conversation, it is basically a rundown of how to qualify, find out a good 3-4 things about her, immidiately from a2 (dhv/neg) you should be running a compliance ladder and checking how compliant she is with you, if you don't know how to do this, see #2 in that link above, that says compliance ladder

after she has given you a solid few ioi's and you are thinking in your head, this girl is into me (basically she is friendly, compliant, and will isolate with you), just ask her if she would like to kiss you (you already know the routine im sure), then follow up by giving her a genuine compliment about something that is not appearance related (you can use your qualification for this), then tell her you would love to take her out to xyzPLACE, to do xyz, on zyzDAY, if she seems up for it, get her phone number, then continue talking to her after the phone number, start exchanging things you have in common (music, hobbies, favorite foods, etc. etc. just vibe and fluff talk), after a few minutes of doing this, you can give her a reason you have to leave (if you used a flase time constraint at the open, you can repeat it,), then leave and tell her it was awesome meeting her, and you will call her

then follow up and call her and go on a date

now, if things are going really really well, off the kiss, and she is all over you, you can just try to ask her home to your house, or out on a mini date (then to your house after), just give her an excuse as to why, don't just say lets go have sex at my house

''hey I have some drinks back at my place, you are welcome to join me for a nightcap''

''hey there is this really cool song I have at home, I would love to let you listen to it''

etc. etc.

just make any excuse to bring her home that is not sex, you can use your imagination and be as creative as you want, and do something that matches your personality

if she has any objections, don't argue or get defensive just go with the flow

her: ok but we are not having sex
you: we don't have to do anything we don't want to, we are both mature adults

then just bring her home and make out with her and try to progress things but if they don't progress, just enjoy the makeout and express geuine interest in her for something more then just a fuckhole, have some fun, get laid, if you can awesome, if she will only makeout or blow you or w/e, cool beans just enjoy her company and you can descide for yourself if she is worth a call to hang out again or not

lastly,
flakes
if you get a number from a girl, no matter how interested she seemed, what she does is way more important then what you think her interest level is at based on ioi's, don't just straight delete girls numbers unless they tell you to, develope a long list of numbers to put into a rotation, but once a girl comes up with 3 excuses in a row for why she can't meet you, or hang out, consider that a girl you will not sleep with, and move on, if she comes back around cool, but don't pursue her, you will end up wasting your time, when those girls contact you, invite them out and chat and stuff, but don't actively pursue them, go meet other girls instead, it will be more productive

and also know that not every girl can be got, no matter how tight the game, some are simply not interested in you, for reasons besides your game, or you, fixation on a specific girl that has not being giving compliance is a waste of time

GOOD LUCK
Author:  ozeen [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:51 pm ]
Post subject: 
thanks alot for the advice, i was just looking for some criticism about how i could progress or change whats going on.

It seems ok but im just starting and im easily frustrated after a bad night, but i understand its a learning process so im trying.

I DO blame myself always, its just difficult in my extremely small town where everyone knows everyone and going to the same bar every night.
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