I don't think overcoming a greater fear of yours like bungie jumping through flaming hoops is all of a sudden going to make talking to girls any easier.
You're gonna have to take it in steps like everyone else I think
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| Author: | bartm [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:06 am ] |
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Hi about 5 years ago, I had a phobia of dogs. I was so scared of dogs. for example, when I would see a dog coming from across the street, I would go to the other side of the street. Then I started working with this surgeon. I went to surgery and saw a lot of disgusting stuff. I saw a mastectomy (the complete removal of boobs), blood, a lot of disgusting stuff. Then, suddenly, my fear of dogs was gone. completely gone, I am completely normal now. I can even play with a big dog. I asked a psychologist and he said there are different levels of fear, when you overcome a higher level, the lower levels are also overcome. I dont know if this is all theory and bullshit or if this is true. anyway, I am trying to apply this same concept to the fear of talking to girls. What is something that I could do so that my fear of talking is suddenly gone? Note: "just approach a lot"does not count, I am trying to apply the surgeon>dog concept. |
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| Author: | papichulo310 [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:34 am ] |
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What a psychologist might suggest is either exposure therapy or Flooding. With exposure therapy the idea is to introduce the client to several gradations of the feared stimuli. For example, if you are afraid of snakes you first may be exposed to a plastic snake in the room. Next, you may be instructed to watch a video of snakes slithering through a grassy field, for example. And lastly you'd be asked to stay put in the room with a real live snake. The idea here is to slowly acclimate the person to each stage, without numbing their senses so that they are being present in the situation and not dissociating. Another technique used in dealing with clients who suffer from various forms of phobia is known as Flooding. In flooding you'd simply expose them to the fear, albeit with some guidance insist that they face it head on. An example of this in PU would be simply going to a mall and saying "Hi" to every woman if you're petrified of talking to them. |
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| Author: | neyos [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: different levels of fear |
Quote: Hi
oh my, you're so cute..I went to surgery and saw a lot of disgusting stuff. I saw a mastectomy (the complete removal of boobs), blood, a lot of disgusting stuff. Then, suddenly, my fear of dogs was gone. completely gone, I am completely normal now. I can even play with a big dog. I asked a psychologist and he said there are different levels of fear, when you overcome a higher level, the lower levels are also overcome. I dont know if this is all theory and bullshit or if this is true. anyway, I am trying to apply this same concept to the fear of talking to girls. What is something that I could do so that my fear of talking is suddenly gone? Note: "just approach a lot"does not count, I am trying to apply the surgeon>dog concept. approach them and absolutely do your best to be a wicked asshole and attempt to get bitch slapped in the face. it takes more to reach that goal than to get laid . make them hate you! if she's a little older call her auntie, if she's all hot imply her being a useless princess, ...and so on... why limit yourself, be the ultimate creep you never were.. if you do it wrong, they'll jump on you and you get laid faster than you thought. if you do it right, you get slapped often and learn a damn whole lot more than you would by reading PUA books. if something disgusts you badly, do it! transform that awful feeling into energy..or to put it differently: it is the need to pump yourself up to such a energetic gung ho state to overcome that "hurdle" without succumbing to your limitations...this is known in the occult as "disgust trance". this makes you larger than life for a while, which radiates and is often felt by women. what batteries do we usually buy? fully charged batteries! but the all time best cure for fear is being a strongly believing christian. best is to join the evangelists. have faith. because the truth is that simple: the opposite of faith is not doubt. it is fear. |
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| Author: | papichulo310 [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: different levels of fear |
Quote: Quote: Hi
oh my, you're so cute..I went to surgery and saw a lot of disgusting stuff. I saw a mastectomy (the complete removal of boobs), blood, a lot of disgusting stuff. Then, suddenly, my fear of dogs was gone. completely gone, I am completely normal now. I can even play with a big dog. I asked a psychologist and he said there are different levels of fear, when you overcome a higher level, the lower levels are also overcome. I dont know if this is all theory and bullshit or if this is true. anyway, I am trying to apply this same concept to the fear of talking to girls. What is something that I could do so that my fear of talking is suddenly gone? Note: "just approach a lot"does not count, I am trying to apply the surgeon>dog concept. approach them and absolutely do your best to be a wicked asshole and attempt to get bitch slapped in the face. it takes more to reach that goal than to get laid . make them hate you! if she's a little older call her auntie, if she's all hot imply her being a useless princess, ...and so on... why limit yourself, be the ultimate creep you never were.. if you do it wrong, they'll jump on you and you get laid faster than you thought. if you do it right, you get slapped often and learn a damn whole lot more than you would by reading PUA books. if something disgusts you badly, do it! transform that awful feeling into energy..or to put it differently: it is the need to pump yourself up to such a energetic gung ho state to overcome that "hurdle" without succumbing to your limitations...this is known in the occult as "disgust trance". this makes you larger than life for a while, which radiates and is often felt by women. what batteries do we usually buy? fully charged batteries! but the all time best cure for fear is being a strongly believing christian. best is to join the evangelists. have faith. because the truth is that simple: the opposite of faith is not doubt. it is fear. |
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| Author: | bartm [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: different levels of fear |
Quote: Quote: Hi
oh my, you're so cute..I went to surgery and saw a lot of disgusting stuff. I saw a mastectomy (the complete removal of boobs), blood, a lot of disgusting stuff. Then, suddenly, my fear of dogs was gone. completely gone, I am completely normal now. I can even play with a big dog. I asked a psychologist and he said there are different levels of fear, when you overcome a higher level, the lower levels are also overcome. I dont know if this is all theory and bullshit or if this is true. anyway, I am trying to apply this same concept to the fear of talking to girls. What is something that I could do so that my fear of talking is suddenly gone? Note: "just approach a lot"does not count, I am trying to apply the surgeon>dog concept. approach them and absolutely do your best to be a wicked asshole and attempt to get bitch slapped in the face. it takes more to reach that goal than to get laid . make them hate you! if she's a little older call her auntie, if she's all hot imply her being a useless princess, ...and so on... why limit yourself, be the ultimate creep you never were.. if you do it wrong, they'll jump on you and you get laid faster than you thought. if you do it right, you get slapped often and learn a damn whole lot more than you would by reading PUA books. if something disgusts you badly, do it! transform that awful feeling into energy..or to put it differently: it is the need to pump yourself up to such a energetic gung ho state to overcome that "hurdle" without succumbing to your limitations...this is known in the occult as "disgust trance". this makes you larger than life for a while, which radiates and is often felt by women. what batteries do we usually buy? fully charged batteries! but the all time best cure for fear is being a strongly believing christian. best is to join the evangelists. have faith. because the truth is that simple: the opposite of faith is not doubt. it is fear. anyway, my question was simple and it seems that nobody has understood it. it is basically an SAT analogy question (back in the day, we had these in the SATs) If fear of dogs:surgeon, then fear of girls: __?? you have to fill in the blank answer could be jumping from a buldiling, working at mcdonalds, working as a cop, I dont know, just something that will cause my fear to be gone. |
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| Author: | neyos [ Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:26 pm ] |
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fucked in the head all right...but have you tried it out? that got me laid better than anything else so far. if you dare not try, then at least try being nonchalantly brutally honest with a woman. why? we tell so many lies every day, that we often don't even realize it any more, when we do so. therefore, blunt honesty is precious. it also has something very refreshing to it. remember how little kids can be telling the truth without worrying if the other is hurt by their statement. they can go up to a lady and tell her : "you got a huge ass" or "you're so fat". Don't you just love it when a kid says to someone with expensive Hugo Boss shoes: "hey these are like clown shoes!" (referring to the big front of that show off shoe). brutal honesty there. no spite no envy. honesty if she doesn't appreciate that, she doesn't qualify IMO. dogs and surgeons ..what next, chicks and polygraphs? duh..you're making it more complicated than necessary. do you fear the simple truth too? yes truth is simple, so go talk about something more intellectual with someone else. remember this? " the lord is my shepherd...etc..etc.." maybe you want to try the simple truth with the ultimate remedy for all fears: faith.. the opposite of faith is not doubt, it is fear. if you don't understand that, then you badly need to.. god bless |
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| Author: | CluelessAFC [ Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:37 am ] |
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I don't think overcoming a greater fear of yours like bungie jumping through flaming hoops is all of a sudden going to make talking to girls any easier. You're gonna have to take it in steps like everyone else I think
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