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Author:  Entourages [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:32 am ]
Post subject:  Sexual Escalation
How does one sexually escalate more, I feel that is my weakest area of work. In clubs and night games I will be more touchy and close holding the chicks and shit, but at day game I have a problem with that. I really want to know how to master this.

I feel I am not being sexually aggressive as much as I used to be. Like I used to go up to girls and just ask them for a squeeze and be dead ass serious and just grab their asses but that was in hs and I was like king there. I dont know it aint high school so I need advice.
Author:  EddieFews [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:42 am ]
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It was not the fact that it was highschool.. It was the mentality you had during highschool.. You just have to adopt that same mentality.
Author:  papichulo818 [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:42 am ]
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God help you if Chris2k comes in here, you're liable to get a rape charge and be labelled as a sexual predator if you take his advice on sexual escalation.

You don't ask a girl for a squeeze, that's lame and will get you weird looks, if not a slap to the face and a "fuck you". Ask to read her palm (turn it into some sort of joke, say all bad shit "omg you've got the y line (or some bullshit)" "What's that" she'll ask "it means you can be a real bitch at times"... whatever the less typical stuff. Point is you're holding her hand and making her laugh cause its interspersed with comedy; i cant think of any routines right now as I'm tired and have to go meet some friends to c a movie.

-In the gayest lisp you can do (which shouldnt be hard all things considered), comment on her nails "OMG THEY ARE LIKE SO PERFECT!!!" taking her hand while doing so as if you're taking a closer look
-tell her you got an itch on your back you need her to scratch and after she's done tell her ur gonna return the favor (ask where her itch is). I dont care if it sounds lame if she gives u access you're set
-bump into her as u walk by then turn around put your hand gently on her arm and go "oh gosh I'm sorry!"

Careful with hair a lot of girls are stupid sensitive about it. If you're at a club, why not take her hand and lead her to the dance floor?
Author:  Entourages [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:16 am ]
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God help you if Chris2k comes in here, you're liable to get a rape charge and be labelled as a sexual predator if you take his advice on sexual escalation.

You don't ask a girl for a squeeze, that's lame and will get you weird looks, if not a slap to the face and a "fuck you". Ask to read her palm (turn it into some sort of joke, say all bad shit "omg you've got the y line (or some bullshit)" "What's that" she'll ask "it means you can be a real bitch at times"... whatever the less typical stuff. Point is you're holding her hand and making her laugh cause its interspersed with comedy; i cant think of any routines right now as I'm tired and have to go meet some friends to c a movie.

-In the gayest lisp you can do (which shouldnt be hard all things considered), comment on her nails "OMG THEY ARE LIKE SO PERFECT!!!" taking her hand while doing so as if you're taking a closer look
-tell her you got an itch on your back you need her to scratch and after she's done tell her ur gonna return the favor (ask where her itch is). I dont care if it sounds lame if she gives u access you're set
-bump into her as u walk by then turn around put your hand gently on her arm and go "oh gosh I'm sorry!"

Careful with hair a lot of girls are stupid sensitive about it. If you're at a club, why not take her hand and lead her to the dance floor?
Haha so in a gay voice, so does this mean reallyhigh, and should I jump up and down like princess peach after she is saved?

But alright I am picking up a girl I was thinking of legit just picking her up and placing her in my car and be like stay and just treat her like a dog. and I didnt actually say let me get a squeeze i would be like wow i fucking love your ass and than just grab it... but yea I guess its the mentality, I just went to priv school all my life and I didnt want to do that shit in college in case it was like a big no no... but kk I will use it now.
Author:  EddieFews [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:17 am ]
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God help you if Chris2k comes in here, you're liable to get a rape charge and be labelled as a sexual predator if you take his advice on sexual escalation.

You don't ask a girl for a squeeze, that's lame and will get you weird looks, if not a slap to the face and a "fuck you". Ask to read her palm (turn it into some sort of joke, say all bad shit "omg you've got the y line (or some bullshit)" "What's that" she'll ask "it means you can be a real bitch at times"... whatever the less typical stuff. Point is you're holding her hand and making her laugh cause its interspersed with comedy; i cant think of any routines right now as I'm tired and have to go meet some friends to c a movie.

-In the gayest lisp you can do (which shouldnt be hard all things considered), comment on her nails "OMG THEY ARE LIKE SO PERFECT!!!" taking her hand while doing so as if you're taking a closer look
-tell her you got an itch on your back you need her to scratch and after she's done tell her ur gonna return the favor (ask where her itch is). I dont care if it sounds lame if she gives u access you're set
-bump into her as u walk by then turn around put your hand gently on her arm and go "oh gosh I'm sorry!"

Careful with hair a lot of girls are stupid sensitive about it. If you're at a club, why not take her hand and lead her to the dance floor?
Dude, you don't make excuses just so you can touch girls... Thats for really really inexperienced guys that lack confidence..

If you want to touch her, just touch her..You don't need an excuse or a reason.. And you don't need to ask for permission. Now im not saying go all out and start grabbing ass and tits but keep it reasonable and respectable... when people are around lol
Author:  lolaskate [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:29 am ]
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God help you if Chris2k comes in here, you're liable to get a rape charge and be labelled as a sexual predator if you take his advice on sexual escalation.

You don't ask a girl for a squeeze, that's lame and will get you weird looks, if not a slap to the face and a "fuck you". Ask to read her palm (turn it into some sort of joke, say all bad shit "omg you've got the y line (or some bullshit)" "What's that" she'll ask "it means you can be a real bitch at times"... whatever the less typical stuff. Point is you're holding her hand and making her laugh cause its interspersed with comedy; i cant think of any routines right now as I'm tired and have to go meet some friends to c a movie.

-In the gayest lisp you can do (which shouldnt be hard all things considered), comment on her nails "OMG THEY ARE LIKE SO PERFECT!!!" taking her hand while doing so as if you're taking a closer look
-tell her you got an itch on your back you need her to scratch and after she's done tell her ur gonna return the favor (ask where her itch is). I dont care if it sounds lame if she gives u access you're set
-bump into her as u walk by then turn around put your hand gently on her arm and go "oh gosh I'm sorry!"

Careful with hair a lot of girls are stupid sensitive about it. If you're at a club, why not take her hand and lead her to the dance floor?
Wow, you hate on chris first, and then give the lamest advice ever.

Palm reading?
Bullshitting?
I mean seriously?

If you want kino escalation, I think Dicarlos Escalation Ladder is awesome (google it)

But in terms of actual sexual escalation do the staples. Move in closer. Talk slower, deeper. Sexual framing- talk about sex, or use descriptive words which can be generally interpreted as sexual eg. I was eating chocolate the other day, and I just love the way it melts in your mouth, sticky and sweet, it just amazes me. (shit example but wtvs)

Ambiguous touching. Brushing hand passed tit, hand, hips or ass. Just anything that'll be misinterpreted as a sexual move, without actually being overtly sexual.

I don't know if this is a placebo or not but it works for me well. Sexual state projection. Get horny and think about making out/ sucking tit/ fucking the shit out of her/ or getting a blowjob. Anything that'll get you horny.
The idea for this one is with rapport, she picks up and mimics the micro gestures of your body, Back rationalizes and becomes horny herself (yeah I thought total bullshit at the start but give it a go).

And last but not least, eyecontact. :D

Hope it helps
Author:  Entourages [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:47 am ]
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God help you if Chris2k comes in here, you're liable to get a rape charge and be labelled as a sexual predator if you take his advice on sexual escalation.

You don't ask a girl for a squeeze, that's lame and will get you weird looks, if not a slap to the face and a "fuck you". Ask to read her palm (turn it into some sort of joke, say all bad shit "omg you've got the y line (or some bullshit)" "What's that" she'll ask "it means you can be a real bitch at times"... whatever the less typical stuff. Point is you're holding her hand and making her laugh cause its interspersed with comedy; i cant think of any routines right now as I'm tired and have to go meet some friends to c a movie.

-In the gayest lisp you can do (which shouldnt be hard all things considered), comment on her nails "OMG THEY ARE LIKE SO PERFECT!!!" taking her hand while doing so as if you're taking a closer look
-tell her you got an itch on your back you need her to scratch and after she's done tell her ur gonna return the favor (ask where her itch is). I dont care if it sounds lame if she gives u access you're set
-bump into her as u walk by then turn around put your hand gently on her arm and go "oh gosh I'm sorry!"

Careful with hair a lot of girls are stupid sensitive about it. If you're at a club, why not take her hand and lead her to the dance floor?
Dude, you don't make excuses just so you can touch girls... Thats for really really inexperienced guys that lack confidence..

If you want to touch her, just touch her..You don't need an excuse or a reason.. And you don't need to ask for permission. Now im not saying go all out and start grabbing ass and tits but keep it reasonable and respectable... when people are around lol
I was in hs :( dont yell at me haha it was before I learn game, I mean I still got around... hahaha I got you ;)

Okay eye contact is a must I know I have been working like brutally hard on this, I always stare at a girls lips cause thats what I want. (could this be eye contact or could they tell your not staring at their eyes).

Im not so much for "accident;y" brushing her tits, but I will lead her around and introduce her like I am the pimp for sure and use that as an excuse to have my hand around her ass. I will def try the placebo affect, lets just hope I dont space out and yell her name and shes liek what... that would be funny I want to try it... Will look up dicarlos now thanks a lot skate I really appreciate that. And I hate palm reading, but I bet this bitch is into it, she keeps telling me how were the same zodiac and what my day is blah blah blah I legit tell her to stop talking about it at times its just fucking brutal to hear what stars are saying.
Author:  AaronAA [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:00 am ]
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You should be touching in a casual, friendly way as soon as you start talking to a woman. If she's in a group, you should be touching everyone in the group (even dudes) in a casual, friendly way. Touch the arms, shoulders, upper back of EVERYONE. It establishes that you're a touchy person so no one will be creeped out when you touch them.

Once you are close enough to the woman you want to seduce, which should be within seconds of entering the group, hold her hand, touch her hair, put your arm around her. These are all normal, socially acceptable behaviors that will indicate sexual interest. GAUGE HER REACTIONS. If she's accepting of all this, you can probably go for the kiss. If she doesn't want to kiss, and you show her that you're cool with that, you get credit for being ballsy and respectful. If you're kissing, you can probably escalate to sex. If she doesn't want sex and you're cool with that, you get respect again for being ballsy and respectful. Patience and persistence are key.

You are a sexual person. Don't ever be afraid to express your desire to a woman.

You're goal should be to come off as a normal guy who simply loves sex. Traditional PUA techniques teach you to hide your sexual desires behind games and bullshit. Don't.

It took me years of trying all the major PUA schools of thought before I learned how to just be a normal guy who loves women.
Author:  AaronAA [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:04 am ]
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God help you if Chris2k comes in here, you're liable to get a rape charge and be labelled as a sexual predator if you take his advice on sexual escalation.

You don't ask a girl for a squeeze, that's lame and will get you weird looks, if not a slap to the face and a "fuck you". Ask to read her palm (turn it into some sort of joke, say all bad shit "omg you've got the y line (or some bullshit)" "What's that" she'll ask "it means you can be a real bitch at times"... whatever the less typical stuff. Point is you're holding her hand and making her laugh cause its interspersed with comedy; i cant think of any routines right now as I'm tired and have to go meet some friends to c a movie.

-In the gayest lisp you can do (which shouldnt be hard all things considered), comment on her nails "OMG THEY ARE LIKE SO PERFECT!!!" taking her hand while doing so as if you're taking a closer look
-tell her you got an itch on your back you need her to scratch and after she's done tell her ur gonna return the favor (ask where her itch is). I dont care if it sounds lame if she gives u access you're set
-bump into her as u walk by then turn around put your hand gently on her arm and go "oh gosh I'm sorry!"

Careful with hair a lot of girls are stupid sensitive about it. If you're at a club, why not take her hand and lead her to the dance floor?
Dude, you don't make excuses just so you can touch girls... Thats for really really inexperienced guys that lack confidence..

If you want to touch her, just touch her..You don't need an excuse or a reason.. And you don't need to ask for permission. Now im not saying go all out and start grabbing ass and tits but keep it reasonable and respectable... when people are around lol
I was in hs :( dont yell at me haha it was before I learn game, I mean I still got around... hahaha I got you ;)

Okay eye contact is a must I know I have been working like brutally hard on this, I always stare at a girls lips cause thats what I want. (could this be eye contact or could they tell your not staring at their eyes).

Im not so much for "accident;y" brushing her tits, but I will lead her around and introduce her like I am the pimp for sure and use that as an excuse to have my hand around her ass. I will def try the placebo affect, lets just hope I dont space out and yell her name and shes liek what... that would be funny I want to try it... Will look up dicarlos now thanks a lot skate I really appreciate that. And I hate palm reading, but I bet this bitch is into it, she keeps telling me how were the same zodiac and what my day is blah blah blah I legit tell her to stop talking about it at times its just fucking brutal to hear what stars are saying.
By the way, people can tell when you're not making direct eye-contact. You know that feeling you get when you make really solid, direct eye-contact (which is probably why you look at their lips instead)? If you're not getting that feeling, neither is she. That feeling is very seductive.
Author:  AaronAA [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:13 am ]
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This guy's info fixed my fucked up PUA behavior quick and I got the training second-hand!

http://www.attractionmethods.com/products/kino

I've seen a few of his products from a friend of mine, although not this specific one. He talks about how to touch women all the time. It's like the center-piece of his training.
Author:  Entourages [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:08 pm ]
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This guy's info fixed my fucked up PUA behavior quick and I got the training second-hand!

http://www.attractionmethods.com/products/kino

I've seen a few of his products from a friend of mine, although not this specific one. He talks about how to touch women all the time. It's like the center-piece of his training.

Thanks and yea there is a feeling, its like piercing though. I wont lie, haha I hate it. In uni, I always have female teachers and have to talk to them about some shit and I try to give eye contact but I feel like a little oby getting scolded its painful haha :P Thanks for the link I will definitely look at it now. I really want this shit to work, so I gonna try and do what ever is possible.
Author:  papichulo818 [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:55 pm ]
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God help you if Chris2k comes in here, you're liable to get a rape charge and be labelled as a sexual predator if you take his advice on sexual escalation.

You don't ask a girl for a squeeze, that's lame and will get you weird looks, if not a slap to the face and a "fuck you". Ask to read her palm (turn it into some sort of joke, say all bad shit "omg you've got the y line (or some bullshit)" "What's that" she'll ask "it means you can be a real bitch at times"... whatever the less typical stuff. Point is you're holding her hand and making her laugh cause its interspersed with comedy; i cant think of any routines right now as I'm tired and have to go meet some friends to c a movie.

-In the gayest lisp you can do (which shouldnt be hard all things considered), comment on her nails "OMG THEY ARE LIKE SO PERFECT!!!" taking her hand while doing so as if you're taking a closer look
-tell her you got an itch on your back you need her to scratch and after she's done tell her ur gonna return the favor (ask where her itch is). I dont care if it sounds lame if she gives u access you're set
-bump into her as u walk by then turn around put your hand gently on her arm and go "oh gosh I'm sorry!"

Careful with hair a lot of girls are stupid sensitive about it. If you're at a club, why not take her hand and lead her to the dance floor?
Wow, you hate on chris first, and then give the lamest advice ever.

Palm reading?
Bullshitting?
I mean seriously?

If you want kino escalation, I think Dicarlos Escalation Ladder is awesome (google it)

But in terms of actual sexual escalation do the staples. Move in closer. Talk slower, deeper. Sexual framing- talk about sex, or use descriptive words which can be generally interpreted as sexual eg. I was eating chocolate the other day, and I just love the way it melts in your mouth, sticky and sweet, it just amazes me. (shit example but wtvs)

Ambiguous touching. Brushing hand passed tit, hand, hips or ass. Just anything that'll be misinterpreted as a sexual move, without actually being overtly sexual.

I don't know if this is a placebo or not but it works for me well. Sexual state projection. Get horny and think about making out/ sucking tit/ fucking the shit out of her/ or getting a blowjob. Anything that'll get you horny.
The idea for this one is with rapport, she picks up and mimics the micro gestures of your body, Back rationalizes and becomes horny herself (yeah I thought total bullshit at the start but give it a go).

And last but not least, eyecontact. :D

Hope it helps
Yes, be ambiguous, all the better! lol

You just owned yourself anyway:


As per DiCarlo's own recommendations (during the Step Ladder of Esclation gambit):

"Incidental Class 1 Examples:

* Hand shaking
* Arm brushing
* Light touching on her arm to emphasize your points
* Anchoring her arm near elbow to hold her close as you talk
* Standing next to her with your arm touching hers
* High Fives
* Palm Reading"


Yea, talk about how chocolate melted in your mouth, sound like a girl or better yet a gay man describing something so effeminate sounding...that'll surely get her motor humming. Are you for real? Imagine saying that to a girl you've just met, imagine how damn gay it sounds! You're better off taking something SHE said and sexualizing it (which by no mistake, is a way of maintaining a strong frame as it's being playfully inferred that she's the one who initiated the idea of being sexual, you just stole and ran with it!). Too late to hit the edit button, champ.

Pretty much the entire ladder is common sense shit, unless you're a social retard.

Fuckin stooge-ass Aussie, go back to snorting your blow.

And yea, i neg rep'd u.
Author:  Pinocchio [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:47 pm ]
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In Daygame I wouldn't escalate too much until you're back on your bed. The cheeky, sexually aggressive thing only gets me so far. It probably looks cool to anybody who's watching, but rarely do I ever get laid from it.
As for kino, I don't really do much of that either. It's really not as important during the day as it is in then night. By all means though, try it out. Not kino-ing because you're afraid to is weak. Not doing it because it's unnecessary is efficient.
Author:  Entourages [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:52 pm ]
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In Daygame I wouldn't escalate too much until you're back on your bed. The cheeky, sexually aggressive thing only gets me so far. It probably looks cool to anybody who's watching, but rarely do I ever get laid from it.
As for kino, I don't really do much of that either. It's really not as important during the day as it is in then night. By all means though, try it out. Not kino-ing because you're afraid to is weak. Not doing it because it's unnecessary is efficient.
its not that I am afraid, I just dont feel natural doing it during the day, at clubs and such I just pull a girl in and then do my thing. I just want to know how to get this girl cause I def got one-itis and want her. I havent gone out with her in a while cause I "froze her out" I flaked her a couple times to show I am busy and this time she is interested and wants to go I just called her cause she texted me when should I get her.

I just dont know how interested she is in and how much I gotta work, but I am taking all the advice and gonna try and make it work. I am not thinking of failure. The only way I fail is if somehow tom brady fucks up and I just get pissed as fuck.
Author:  snillaheart [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:26 pm ]
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if you dont know where you stand with the girl thats simple, run qualification material and see how she responds, compliance tests, see if you can venue change, see if you can escalate on her...sexual escalation...if you say it feels unnatural to touch women then you should start with high fives, thumb war, pinky promise, hugs, side hugs all while teasing or whatever flirting you do... just get her comfortable with your touch = frame of sexuality becomes stronger so its not weird anymore(back in high school days frame)

remember daygame is different than nightgame in daygame you have to escalate 2 steps forward 1 step back, when she says something you like you grab her hand look her in the eyes tell her dont get any ideas proceed onto the next thread wit yo0ur hands locked.

you should always talk about something sexual sometimes or actual sex, you can also joke about sexual shit even throw innuendos in there too. people on here dont highlight talking about sex but it gets chicks turned on.
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